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Craig wrote:

Hi, guys —

Concerning Matthew 25:37, you wrote:

Also in Matthew 25, Jesus talks about a judgment where he will say to some, when I was hungry you fed me, when I was thirsty you gave me to drink. These people responded by saying,

  • "When did we do this?"  (Matthew 25:35-37)

  • Now that does not sound like a response from a Christian, does it?

Yet the passage says the righteous ones asked this question.

  • Are not the righteous ones true Christians?

The Lord is commending:

  • the saints, in all ages, in lands unknown when Christ was on earth, and
  • saints who had never seen Him when He was in the flesh

for feeding, visiting and entertaining him whom they had never seen in person.   What is more natural for them but to exclaim:

  • When did we see thee?
  • When did we entertain thee ? etc.

John Wesley wrote:

Then shall the righteous answer — It cannot be, that either the righteous or the wicked should answer in these very words.

What we learn from here is, neither of them have the same estimation of their own works as the Judge has.

Craig

  { Based on Matthew, aren't the righteous ones true Christians and how we are justified in the faith? }

John replied:

Craig —

Look at the passage carefully again. Notice that it says the Angels shall gather the nations. This is not talking about the judgment of Christians. No Christian will stand before Christ and ask:

"When did I feed you?"

A Christian already knows, when he or she feeds the hungry, they are feeding Christ Himself.

Again, this is the judgment of the nations or goyim. In the Jewish tradition, (and Matthew was written to the Jewish Church), the goyim were the pagans.

So in this case, the righteous ones are those who, not knowing Christ in this life, still responded to grace and did the Will of Christ.

John

Craig replied:

John —

I know the passage refers to the nations. These are not pagans, but Jews and Gentiles. Christ will separate people into two groups.

Just as a shepherd separates his sheep from his goats, the Lord Jesus Christ will separate believers from unbelievers at His Return. The believers will be taken into His kingdom to join the other saints and the goats will be put out of His kingdom. Those who are placed at Christ's right hand aren't there because of their own good deeds, but because of God's imputed righteousness to them.

Craig

John replied:

First of all,

God does not impute righteousness, he infuses it!!

God doesn't declare us righteous without also making us righteous. Hence, justification is dynamic, not static. This is the fundamental difference between:

  • Catholicism, Orthodoxy, and historical Christendom, on one hand, and
  • Protestant sects that developed as a result of Luther completely misunderstanding what Paul was saying in Romans.

The text in Matthew 25 is not the judgment of the Church. It's as plain as the nose on your face.

  • Are you telling me, as a Christian knowing that text, you will stand before Jesus Christ and say:
    • When did I feed you?
    • When did I give you to drink?
    • When did I cloth you?

Come on, be serious. No believer is ever going to ask that question because they know the text already!! Hello. It doesn't take a Theology degree to read that text and understand it. No one who has read it, let alone anyone who believes, will sit there like a dope on judgment day and ask:

  • When did we do this for you Lord?

Because if we do answer like that, He's not going to say enter into my kingdom. He's gonna say:

  • What are you dense?
  • Can you read?
  • Didn't you hear it a thousand times, whenever you feed the hungry you feed me? Then he'll say go back to Sunday School and come later you dope!

This text is referring to those who have not heard or understood the Gospel. It is referring to the people Paul wrote about in Romans:

those who do the law without knowing the law. (Romans 2:14)

Now, let's go back to the heresy of imputed righteousness versus infused righteousness.

We are saved by Grace alone. As a result of our free will response to Grace through faith,
we produce good works (Read Ephesians 2:8-10). It is Grace which empowers us intrinsically to do good works. If we refuse to cooperate with grace, then we jeopardize our soul. Salvation is not a one time event. It is a complete work of Christ by grace from beginning to end, where we cooperate with Him. At anytime, through word or deed we can reject the Gospel.

Just look at the life of Abraham. Yes, Paul says in Romans 4: He believed God and was justified. Great, that's a quote from Genesis 15, but Hebrews 11 tells us that, by faith, Abraham left Ur, and in James it tells us that Abraham was justified when he offered up his son Isaac (an act of faith).

So then, the weight of Scripture teaches us that Justification is not a one time event. It is dynamic. Righteousness, therefore, is not just imputed legally and forensically, but rather is infused and must be manifested until we are perfected by grace.

Faith, is not a simple assent to a proposition, it is an embracing of truth with drives us to action. In other words, "Faith without works is dead." (See the epistle of James).

  • Now, what about the guy living in China in 34 A.D. who never got to hear the Gospel?
  • Is he damned?

How dare we presume to say: Salvation belongs to our God who sits upon the throne! (Revelation 7:10) God can save:

  • whom He wants
  • when He wants
  • how He wants!

So again, I'll bring you back to Matthew 25. None of the saved sheep in that parable have a clue who Jesus is. Either that or they're seriously remedial Christians!!

By asking, When did we feed you?, they may as well be asking: Who are you?

John

Mary Ann replied:

Craig —

In Matthew 25, Jesus speaks of the nations which are the Gentiles, which, for Him, at the time, were the people outside the Law, the pagans.

He explicitly says that these people who never knew Him, met Him, or saw Him, could be saved because of the charity they performed, which He took as being done to Him.

This passage is proof that there is salvation available to all, not just Christians.

Mary Ann

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