Abdulraheem Al-Shaikh
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Hi, guys —
- Why do you find many contradicting statements in the Bible?
- Where is some Biblical
proof that Jesus ever said, Worship me or I
am God?
Also, the Bible says this:
- 2 Kings 8:26 says:
- Ahesia was 22 when he began to reign.
- 2 Chronicles 22:2 says:
- Ahesia was 42 when he began to reign.
- 2 Chronicles 21:20 says:
- Joran, father of Ahesia reigned at the age of 32 and he reigned for 8 years.
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- How can the father be two years older than the son?
Peace be with you,
Abdulraheem
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Why are there contradicting
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Bob replied:
Dear Abdulraheem,
Thanks for the question.
You are correct in pointing out the fact that
there are many apparent contradictions in the Scriptures, and if it were
truly inspired by God, how could that be the case, unless God were errant
or confused.
We believe that the Scriptures are inspired and therefore inerrant and
that apparent contradictions are a result of factors ancillary to the Divine
point of inspiration.
For example, we do not have original copies and
over the centuries different copies and variations had been widely disseminated
and reassembled, often incurring copying errors. Also, sometimes, the point
is not the literal surface meaning, but a literary device such as allegory,
poetry, etc., and the interpreter needs to take into consideration that
the context may make the truth more obscure.
I understand that you might think this lack of originals nullifies the
authenticity and veracity of the whole collection, but to the contrary,
it actually has become an improvement. Today, because of the [art/science]
of textual criticism, we can take thousands of different copies and statistically
determine the likely original source material and relative strength of
all variations. Sure, it's not perfect, but it may be more accurate than
what anyone in the Early Church had back then and in succeeding centuries
thereafter.
If your religion is solely based on a book, it may be troublesome. The
Catholic Church, however, is built on the foundation of the Apostles, who
were eye witnesses to Christ. Many of them were not contributors to the
Scriptures, but were nonetheless responsible for bequeathing our faith.
It is the Magisterium of this Church, and their successors through which
our faith is passed on.
The Scriptures are a family heirloom, not a Catechism
of a perspicacious nature, although many fundamentalist Protestants believe
in the Scriptures this way.
From some of the examples you gave, while the age of Ahesia may be
in question, the fact that he reigned would not be, provided that the
author intended him as an historical and not allegorical figure.
Lastly, you are correct that nowhere did Jesus literally say Worship me or I
am God. He did however, say I AM,
the divine Hebrew title for God (See John's Gospel 8:24) which makes the
claim, and made claims that were only possible if He were God. Keep in
mind that He didn't come to impress people and make Himself exalted; He
came in humility, born in a cave, born of a woman, born to die, yet, He
claimed to forgive sins.
Either that is supreme arrogance, or delusion if he is not God. Only God
is the one offended in every sin, and therefore capable of forgiving every
sin. The subject of Christ's divinity is so vast and has been debated for
centuries by many different camps, I don't want to take it up here.
If
you wish I could recommend some very good reading on the subject.
Thanks and God Bless,
Bob Kirby
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Eric replied:
Hi Abdulraheem,
Bob replied:
Lastly, you are correct that nowhere did Jesus literally say Worship me or I
am God. He did however, say I AM,
the divine Hebrew title for God (See John's Gospel 8:24) which makes the
claim, and made claims that were only possible if He were God. Keep in
mind that He didn't come to impress people and make Himself exalted; He
came in humility, born in a cave, born of a woman, born to die, yet, He
claimed to forgive sins.
Either that is supreme arrogance, or delusion if he is not God. Only God
is the one offended in every sin, and therefore capable of forgiving every
sin. The subject of Christ's divinity is so vast and has been debated for
centuries by many different camps, I don't want to take it up here. If
you wish I could recommend some very good reading on the subject.
Also, on several occasions, Jesus accepted, without criticism, worship
from individuals, such as Thomas. Read John 20:28. Also see Matthew 2:11, Matthew
14:33, Matthew 28:9, and
Matthew 28:17.
Eric
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Abdulraheem
replied:
Look my friend,
I am not interested
in Him saying I AM. That means nothing to me.
Abdulraheem
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Eric replied:
Abdulraheem,
It is significant in revealing Himself. Jesus uses exactly
the same terminology that Allah used in Exodus to reveal himself. It was
a big deal in Exodus; Allah said I AM is my name, and so Jesus
said, before Abraham was, I AM. (John 8:58) Thus, He is God.
Eric
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Abdulraheem replied:
Eric,
I want
proof that he said He was God, but if you can't give me that proof that's
fine.
Abdulraheem
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Eric
replied:
Abdulraheem,
John 1:1 says:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with
God, and the Word was God."
Eric
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Abdulraheem replied:
Eric,
- Why does he say the
Father is greater than I?
Abdulraheem
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Eric replied:
This is merely referring to Him in His Human Nature, as a man walking
on the earth, not in the fullness of His divinity or . . . you can look at
it as rank, rather than fundamentally greater.
Eric
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Abdulraheem replied:
Eric,
He
also states to how to test for future prophets.
- Why would you need to test
for future prophets if Jesus was God?
Abdulraheem
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Eric
replied:
Two questions:
- First, where does Jesus say this?
- Second, even if He
did, why would Jesus, being God, preclude having future prophets?
Eric
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Abdulraheem replied:
Eric,
Thank you for your time and
effort.
Abdulraheem
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Eric replied:
Your welcome.
I hope this helped.
Eric
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