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Stephen
Chizmar
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Hi, guys —
A prior woman asked this question. I believe
she was referring to the Book of Job; and
- How he was able to summon God?
Stephen
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How
do you summon God, like Job did, and why did
God order the destruction of everyone? }
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John
replied:
Hi, Stephen —
Thanks for the question.
First of all, Job is written much
like an ancient Hebrew play.
In other words, it is not to be taken
as a record of history . . . although it
could be.
Secondly, Job did not summon God.
God cannot be summoned. He is sovereign.
We can pray and speak with Him, because
He is Our Loving Father. In fact,
the whole idea that He needs to be
summoned implies that He is distant.
That's not the case. He walks with
us and wants nothing more than to
converse with us.
In fact, He's probably speaking to
a lot more than we think. We are
the ones not listening, but again,
God is not a Genie or
some Demon that he can be summoned.
In the book of Job, Job cries out
to God in prayer.
John
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Stephen
replied:
Hi, John —
- Why did God order Joshua and
the Israelites to destroy Jericho;
and to put to the sword every
man, woman, and child? (Joshua 6:20-21)
I have always found this most, most
troubling, since God had just recently
given to Moses the command:
Thou Shalt Not Murder. (Exodus 20:13)
Stephen
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John
replied:
Stephen —
Again, you're not reading the text
for the literary form that it is.
There are a couple of lessons taught
in this text.
The traditional reason for warfare
(at that time) was included:
- the taking of slaves
- the taking of possessions such
as live stock,
- and so forth.
God's instructions were such that
they contradicted the societal pattern
of going to war for the sake of plundering.
What God was saying is if you want
to go to war, then you've got to
destroy everything or you don't go
to war.
Again, you've got to look at what
the entire Bible is saying. Previously,
God had told Israel
(while they were wandering in the
desert) that when they took the
promised land, they could not intermarry
with the people that lived there.
This prohibition was so that the
Israelites would not pick up the
idolatry and sinful customs of the
Canaanites. However, as Israel traveled
for
40 years, they repeatedly fell into
the same sins, as the Egyptians
they left behind, and the Canaanites
they were going to be living next
to. Hence, God told them to wipe
everybody out.
When you study carefully the meaning
of the names of the peoples that
lived in Canaan,
you understand the point of the text.
In Joshua, they are listed as Jebusites,
Hittites, Perizzites, Girgashites,
etc. Each of the names comes from
a Hebrew root word that means one
of the sins Israel was struggling
with in the desert. The whole notion
of the promised land isn't
just the land; the size of a postage
stamp in the Middle East. The promised land is a state or condition in which
we have put to death the sin in our
life. Obviously we do this by grace
— see Romans
Chapter 8, but the Old Testament
is meant to show us the weakness
of man and his desperate need for
salvation.
When reading these texts,
we don't focus on the historicity.
We treat it as historical for the
sake of the narrative but the whole
narrative is there for a theological
purpose; not to give a historical
accounting or a news report.
John
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Stephen
replied:
Hi, John —
I understand but it does seem a bit contradictory. Also, the killing of men,
women, and children can only be done
by beasts; those who suspend all
humanity.
Yes, I wish I could speak to God
as Job and Abraham did. Personally,
He does indeed need to be spoken
to.
I don't care about how the Earth
is suspended, etc. As a student of
science, I already have a good idea.
Stephen
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John
replied:
My friend,
It seems to me your questions
are rooted in some pretty deep seated
anger. You're angry with God. That's
a start, at least you believe He's
there. I don't know why you're angry.
You may well have the right to your
anger — although if you hold
on to it — you will only hurt
yourself.
There is nothing stopping you from
talking to God. He became man and
died for your sins and mine.
- You don't
think He wants to talk to you?
He
wants nothing more then to talk to
you and yes, if you need to express
your anger — then by all means
do so. Trust me He will answer you.
You just need to be listening. He
may not open up the clouds and drop
out of the sky, but you'll know His
Voice, if you want to hear it.
Just
be ready to hear what He has to say.
John
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Paul
replied:
John,
Excellent insight into the
theological meaning of the text.
- I learned something but do you also
mean to say this was not historical?
- Only symbolic of destroying sins?
If it was historical, this leaves
us with the unanswered question of
why God would order the murder of
every innocent man, woman, and child
in light of the fifth commandment
given at Sinai. No?
Paul
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John
replied:
Paul,
To be honest we don't know if this
is historical. I don't think it's
for us to say either way. If it is
historical, the reason is, that the
sin of those people in Jericho (and
other cities which faced similar
ends) was such that God said
they needed to be exterminated. Let's
not forget Sodom and Gomorrah.
The fifth commandment deals with
murder, not the execution of a judgment.
There is an obscure text in Genesis
where God says to Abraham that his
descendents would spend 400 some
odd years in captivity and that they
could not yet posses Canaan because
the sin of the Amalekites was not
complete. In other words — God
was waiting to strip the land from
these people because He was giving
them time (several centuries) to
repent or seal their fate so by the
time of Joshua, their time was up
and they hadn't repented.
Israel, would not have been committing
murder, rather they were playing
the role of executing God's judgment.
Later we see God used Assyria and
Babylon in a similar fashion against
Israel.
John
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