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Manuel wrote:

Hi, guys —

I usually go to a Baptist church but also go to a Catholic church because my dad is Catholic. I have a question about the Bible and was hoping you could help me.

I have read in some places that the Pharisees used the Masoretic text of the Old Testament.
I also have read in Matthew Chapter 23, verses 1–3 about how Jesus said something about the Pharisees sitting on Moses' seat therefore whatever they bid you to observe, you should observe and do.

It seems to me that Jesus would have wanted his disciples to follow the Masoretic version,
if that's what the Pharisees used.

  • Please help me understand if this is true and, if possible, explain to me what Jesus meant in those verses from Matthew?

Manuel

  { Would Jesus have wanted them to follow the Masoretic text and can you explain Matthew 23:1-3? }

Eric replied:

Hi, Manuel —

The Masoretic Text did not exist until the (7th) seventh to (10th) tenth centuries A. D.

The Jews did not have a closed canon at the time of Jesus. Greek-speaking Jews used the Septuagint, which had a wider canon than the later Masoretic canon: a canon including the books:

  • Catholic
  • Orthodox, and
  • Assyrian Christians

accept as canonical but Protestants do not.

For more information on this topic, search our site for canon or deuterocanonical or read the book Why Are Catholic Bibles Bigger by Gary Michuta.

Eric

Mike replied:

Hi, Manuel —

You said:

  • . . . if possible, explain to me what Jesus meant in those verses from Matthew?
    (Matthew 23:1–3)

This is a common question; it's even in our searchable knowledge base. I searched the knowledge base for you and found this web posting that should answer your question.

Eric is replying to a former Catholic on the authority of the Church. He says:

I'd like to point something else out as well. John the Baptist was condemning individuals claiming to be in a right relationship with God.

He wasn't condemning structures or ruling hierarchies. In fact, in a verse little known to Protestants, despite its proximity to one of their favorite verses to bash Catholics, Jesus said,

"Then Jesus spoke to the multitude, and to his disciples, saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."

(Matthew 23:1–3)

This is interesting for two reasons.

One, the concept of Moses's Seat was a tradition the Jews handed down from Moses's time, something like the Catholic Magisterium. Jesus not only doesn't condemn this tradition, He binds his disciples to obey it! So much for sola scriptura.

The second interesting thing is that Jesus binds them to obey the scribes and the Pharisees even though they are not righteous, precisely the opposite of the point you are trying to prove.

Here Jesus is referring to them as an institution, not individuals. While we don't have Moses's Seat anymore (as such), the message is clear: The unrighteousness of church authority is no excuse for disobedience or schism.

Hope this helps,

Mike

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