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Matthew Sullivan wrote:

Hi, guys —

In the Book of John, at the baptism of Jesus, John states:

32 I saw the Spirit come down like a dove from the sky and remain upon him. 33 I did not know him, but the one who sent me to baptize with water told me,

    'On whomever you see the Spirit come down and remain, he is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.'
John 1:32-33

The phrase: the one who sent me to baptize with water told me is confusing to me.

  • Who is St. John speaking of in this phrase and subsequently prophesied Jesus baptizing in the Holy Spirit?

Thanks,

Matthew

  { Who is St. John speaking of in John 1:32-33 and can you point me to scholarly writings in this area? }

John replied:

Hi, Matthew —

John is speaking of God, Himself. God, through the Third Person of the Holy Spirit, told John to baptize with water and so on.

Remember, John was filled with the Holy Spirit in his mother's womb, hence he was led by the Holy Spirit. He was like any of the Old Testament prophets. They received messages from God.

This is not at all strange or foreign to Christianity. God speaks to us. We receive the Holy Spirit through the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation. The Holy Spirit gives us gifts and charisms through which He leads us. He gives us prophecy and word of knowledge along with the gift of discernment. Our faith, at it's most foundational level, is supernatural.

We believe that the Holy Spirit transforms Bread and Wine in the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of our Lord yet we have difficulty believing God speaks to people directly.

Of course He does. Half the time, we just aren't listening.

John

Matthew replied:

Dear John,

I thought he was speaking of God as the Holy Spirit. I was just stymied by the fact that He used the phrase:

the one

in lower caps. I was reading the Fireside New American Bible.

I really liked the closing portion of your answer regarding God speaking to people directly but that we don't listen. It made me think of how we can hear; but not listen in everyday life. I was just thinking about this the other day.

I am researching a variety of information (books, religious texts, etc.) constructing a novel pertaining to Purgatory, albeit, the topic I asked about may not seem related; but, is in my novel. As a Catholic, I really appreciate the time you took to answer my question along with the promptness of your reply.

One last thing: I was wondering if you can point me in the direction to any scholarly writings from the Catholic Church on:

  • the lost years of Jesus
  • Simon of Peraea: false prophet, messiah or what? and,
  • the assertion by some, even in our Church, that lucifer and satan are different entities?

I'm having trouble finding something credible on these topics and want to write my novel in keeping with the teachings of the Church.

Based on your previous response, I can tell you are very knowledgeable and really like your web site. I just found it today.

God Bless,

— Matthew

John replied:

Hi, Matthew —

On the issue of the use of Caps:

Unfortunately, none of the Catholic translations capitalize pronouns or other nouns that refer to God. However, the original Greek manuscripts are written entirely in CAPS, so that doesn't help.

Regarding your other questions, I'm not surprised you can't find anything credible, since there is no early source for Jesus' early years that the Church has not condemned as heresy; the same holds true with the nonsense about satan and lucifer being two different entities.

The only material about Jesus' early childhood that might be rooted in some truth, is anything coming from the oral tradition of the Coptic Church (not to be confused with the Coptic Catholic Rite). The Coptic Church, went into Schism at the Council of Chalcedon circa 351 A.D. over a Christological dispute.

They are, what we call, Monophysites. They deny that Jesus had two wills and two natures, thus rejecting the hypostatic union: that is, as we believe, Jesus is One Divine Person with
two natures fused together with two wills: one human and one divine.

Anyway, these Coptics are based in Alexandria, Egypt so there is a tradition there of Jesus' childhood but this is not to be confused with the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas or any other Gnostic writings that came out of Egypt. The Coptic stuff might be reliable, but certainly not authoritative.

John

Matthew replied:

John —

Thank you so much for all your help.

God Bless,

Matthew

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