The Dialogue: Who is really
Pro-Choice?
The following is a fictional conversation
I overheard between two teenagers Peter Pro-Life and
Paula Pro-Choice. I'm using it as a platform to express
some Pro-Life views I have.
Peter Pro-Life:
Hi, Paula, how are things going
with you?
Paula Pro-Choice:
Hi, Peter, fine I guess.
Peter Pro-Life:
Do you have a few seconds to explain
to me the reasoning behind the American woman's "pro-choice"
position?
Paula Pro-Choice:
Sure. As women we want and demand
our reproductive freedoms. We believe women are equal
to men in all things in our great country. We believe
that since freedom is the cornerstone of our democratic
republic, women should be just as free as men in
all things, including our own reproductive choices;
they are our bodies.
Peter Pro-Life:
Hmmm. Interesting position. Do
I or the women you are speaking for have the freedom
in America to go out, buy a gun and kill any one
they wish to?
Paula Pro-Choice:
Of course not, you idiot! You'd
be put in jail and sentenced to life with no parole.
Peter Pro-Life:
So my freedom and the freedom of
American women have limitations on them; or, as you
are implying, there would be chaos and complete disorder
in our country with people shooting at other people.
Paula Pro-Choice:
I'm confused. All we want is our
freedoms.
Peter Pro-Life:
There is a difference between freedom
and license.
- Freedom is the free will to do
what we should do.
- License is the formal permission
to do something by a constituted authority for the
common good of our country.
Paula Pro-Choice:
You are getting off the topic,
Peter!
They’re our bodies and we have the right
to do what ever we want with our own bodies!
Peter Pro-Life:
Who gave you that looney idea!!!
Paula Pro-Choice:
What are you talking about? Isn't
that obvious?
Peter Pro-Life:
OK, if it is your body, please
walk through this brick wall.
Paula Pro-Choice:
Are you crazy, I can't do
that!
Peter Pro-Life:
OK, if it is your body, please
jump out of a flying airplane in mid air and land
on your feet alive.
Paula Pro-Choice:
Are you crazy, I'd be killed!
Peter Pro-Life:
OK, if it is your body, please
walk toward the ocean and keep on walking until you
are 1,000 feet below sea level.
Paula Pro-Choice:
Are you crazy, I would drown!
Peter Pro-Life:
But if your body is yours, why
can't you do these things?
The reason why is because IT IS NOT YOUR
BODY, just as my body IS NOT MY BODY.
Paula Pro-Choice:
Please Peter, you are not
going to start talking about God again, are you?
Peter Pro-Life:
Up until now, Paula, I haven't
mentioned God. Why have YOU brought God into this
discussion? Do you and the American women you represent
believe that the limitations of your body I
have mentioned can be explained by God?
Paula Pro-Choice:
I hate talking about God because
I feel so guilty every time the subject comes up. Can
we get back to the issue?
Peter Pro-Life:
Sure! Where do you want to pick
up?
Paula Pro-Choice:
The women of
America believe such a private and personal decision
like having an abortion should be make solely between
the woman and her doctor.
Peter Pro-Life:
Which woman?
Paula Pro-Choice:
The women carried the baby
you idiot! Who else?
Peter Pro-Life:
If the baby in
the mother's womb is a young woman, do you believe one
woman, the mother, has a right to kill another woman,
the baby?
What doctor, who has taken the Hippocratic
Oath to do no harm to anyone, would support a decision
to kill a baby woman in a mother's
womb?
Do the women's organizations you
are involved in support the killing of a
baby woman by
a mother?
If so, how are they pro-woman OR
do they want to test to see if it is a baby woman first?
Where are your ethics Paula?
Paula Pro-Choice:
You're confusing me again,
the point the women of America are trying to make
is that in the same way men control their bodies, women
have the right to govern their bodies when it comes to
choice.
Peter Pro-Life:
Which body Paula?
- the mother carrying the newborn
baby in her womb, or
- the newborn baby inside the mother's
womb?
If you are against women killing
any person, baby boy or baby girl, you wouldn't be
pro-choice.
Pro-choice in our society is ANTI-CHOICE.
Paula Pro-Choice:
Peter, you being a MAN, you obviously
don't know anything about women and having babies.
What you are calling a baby, is not a baby yet.
Peter Pro-Life:
Where did you get that crazy information,
Paula, from a Planned Parenthood web site?
Medically, that's not what the American
Medical Association states and that organization is
made up of BOTH men and women doctors.
Legally, that's not what the law
has reflected in previous years where men who have
shot pregnant women have been tried on TWO counts
of murder.
I don't have to be a woman to understand Human
Biology 101.
You and the women who think along
your same line are ANTI-CHOICE. You
don't want the newborn baby in a mother's womb to make
choices, you want to kill the baby for temporal worldly
conveniences.
I've heard sad stories of woman who
wish to carry their baby to term but their parents
and family members pressure them to have an abortion
against their wishes. If you know of women in these
situation have them contact
me. I can help them.
The Pro-Life people
are the REAL PRO-CHOICE people.
We are BOTH Pro-Life AND Pro-Choice.
We want the newborn baby and the mother to LIVE and
make CHOICES. Why? Because the natural choice
is LIFE, not DEATH, which is the result of an abortion
/ baby killing.
As my sister-in-law has told me: "Peace
begins in the womb" and she is right!
Paula Pro-Choice:
Where in the world did you get
this later idea from?
If you ask anyone today whether women
like me hold a pro-choice viewpoint or an anti-choice
view, they will always say I'm pro-choice and you're
anti-choice!
I am Pro-Choice and proud to be Pro-Choice!
Peter Pro-Life:
You and the rest of American women
have bought into the phony verbal re-engineering
of a Planned Parenthood chosen set of words in our
culture over the past 50 or more years. This was
initiated by TV and Radio media executives both on
a local and national level, many whom are either
associated with Planned Parenthood or sympathized
with this and similar Pro baby-killing organizations.
These same people sympathize with the homosexual
lobby which pays them big bucks to promote a perverted
behavior among people of the same sex.
Paula Pro-Choice:
OK, Mister Smarty Pants, how are
these sets of words re-defined?
Peter Pro-Life:
Planned Parenthood has re-framed the
pro-life/pro-death argument to one based on CHOICE.
Why? Because everyone wants choice. It's a God-given
gift.
Using their re-engineered vocabulary:
Someone who holds on to a Pro-Life view has to always
be called Anti-Choice. Their views are NEVER to be
called Pro-Life.
Someone who holds on to a Pro-Abortion/Pro baby-killing
view has to always be called Pro-Choice. Their views
are NEVER Anti-Choice, though that is what they are: Anti-Choice.
The pro abortion organizations are
using what God has given all mankind by nature: free
will, to destroy the definition of free will itself.
In their vocabulary, choice equals death, e.g. Pro-Choice
is Pro-Death (of a live baby).
I believe graduates of colleges and
universities that have received degrees in Mass Communication
and Broadcast Media have been indoctrinated by godless
teachers with these type of
"Planned Parenthood" ideas. The college and/or
university presidents stand by cowardly because they
fear getting sued by the ACLU, the most dangerous organization
in America today.
Paula Pro-Choice:
Hmmm. Let me think about what you
have said. I do know some lady friends of mine that
agree with some of what you have said.
Peter Pro-Life:
In what way?
Paula Pro-Choice:
They are personally opposed to
abortion, but don't believe they don't have the right
to impose their personal view on their friend's lifestyle.
Peter Pro-Life:
With friends like that, who needs
enemies? Any abortion, Paula, is a baby killing.
It not only destroys a human life, but greatly affects
forever the life of the woman who has had an abortion.
I'm not recommending that young pro-life
women be judgmental toward their friends in difficult
situations, but rather compassionate, understanding
and helpful.
If a young pro-life woman knows of
a friend who is thinking about an abortion, she should
encourage her NOT to have one. A newborn
baby is a gift from God himself and has a specific
purpose in life.
If a pregnant woman can not find
anyone to help her care for the baby, she should go
to the local Catholic diocese where she lives. They
will be happy to help her in ANY difficult situation
she is in, whether she is a Catholic or not.
If a pregnant woman doesn't feel
feel capable of raising an unplanned child there are
numerous families who are more the eager to adopt a
child. In many, if not in all, cases a strong relationship
develops between the family that adopts the newborn
child and the mother of the newborn child.
Paula Pro-Choice:
All right Peter, that's good information
to know, but one point we can surely agree on are
young women who are victims of rape or incest. Surely
you wouldn't be against abortions for young women
who have gone through such a terrible experience.
Peter Pro-Life:
OK, Paula. Let me see if I understand
the "Pro-Choice" logic correctly:
Because a young woman has had a terrible
experience of being raped or is a victim of incest,
you want to submit her to ANOTHER terrible experience
of having a new life in her womb killed, right?
Just because the father commits a
criminal act, does this mean the innocent unborn child
deserves the death penalty for this act?
Paula Pro-Choice:
Peter, you are not listening. The
mother of a rape has NO FATHER, she has no money,
she has no support, she has no hope, no one to look
over and take care of her and her newborn child!
Peter Pro-Life:
This is the argument from Planned Parenthood. It
is a message of despair.
The Pro-Life message is one of hope, Paula! Life is
still life. There are many families that would be more
than willing to care and assist such a young lady in
this given situation, even in liberal cities like Boston,
Massachusetts! Yes, there are conservatives in Massachusetts,
believe it or not!
Also there have been studies done on women who are
victims of rape and incest. These studies show that
most, if not all the time, women who have opted NOT to
have an abortion will, with time, get over the traumatic
experience of the rape or incest and bond
with their child. This is in contrast to those who
have chosen to have an abortion after a rape or unwanted
incest encounter and never get over the terrible abortion
procedure done to them.
Paula Pro-Choice:
What about women who have had abortions?
Why has the Pro-Life side been so harsh on these
people who have found themselves in very difficult
situations?
Peter Pro-Life:
It is my personal opinion that
at the beginning we did have problems meeting the
pastoral needs of women who have had abortions, but
that has changed dramatically.
I can only speak for the Catholic
Church which has established a Project Rachel ministry
outreach in each diocese to assist and aid women who,
for whatever reason, choose to have an abortion but
now regret it and wish to be reconciled with the Church
and Our Lord Jesus Himself. E-mail Mike
Humphrey; he will put you in contact with the correct
people.
There are also other numerous Pro-Life
organizations to assist and aid pregnant women who
don't feel capable of raising an unplanned child.
Paula Pro-Choice:
How do I find these numerous ministries
?
Peter Pro-Life:
The best site for information on
the aftermath of abortion is afterabortion.org
Here are some pre-Abortion web sites:
Here are some post-Abortion web sites:
Do you mind if I follow-up on one
of your initial statements?
Paula Pro-Choice:
Sure, go ahead.
Peter Pro-Life:
You said:
As women we want and demand our
reproductive freedoms. [ ...] , women should be
just as free as men in all things, including our
own reproductive choices; they are our bodies.
Can a woman become pregnant without
having sexual relations with a man?
Paula Pro-Choice:
Peter, Have you been drinking?
Of course NOT!
Peter Pro-Life:
Then if American women CHOOSE to
have sexual relations with a man, why does the woman ALONE determine
the consequences of a MUTUAL CHOICE made
between BOTH a man and woman to have sexual relations?
What
"say" does the man have in what YOU call YOUR reproductive
choice?
What
"say" does the man have if HE WANTS to
support and take care of HIS newborn
child?
Who is protecting HIS reproductive choice? Certainly
not YOUR American women!
Paula Pro-Choice:
But it's their bodies, Peter!!!
Peter Pro-Life:
So instead of mutual responsibility between
the sexually active man and woman, the philosophy
of your American women is a juvenile statement along
the lines of:
Possession is 100% of the law.
That is sad, Paula, and manifests
shallow, irresponsible maturity.
If you care for the rights of American
women, why don't you care equally for the rights of
American men or are you a FEMALE chauvinist?
Paula Pro-Choice:
Sorry, Peter, my cell phone is
ringing and I have to go.
Peter Pro-Life:
Don't forget
to vote November 7th!
Paula Pro-Choice:
I won't. How will you be voting?
Peter Pro-Life:
Well, despite the many sins and
shortcomings of the party, there is only one party
whose platform is:
- BOTH PRO-LIFE
and PRO-TRADITIONAL
MARRIAGE,
- is striving to put Supreme
Court Justices on the Court who are not political
ideologues but will interpret the constitution
strictly AND
- appear to be protecting our
country from planes flying into our buildings since
9/11.
The Republican party.
If I thought the Democratic party
as a whole was striving to promote Christian values,
I would vote for them, but I don't see it.
It appears
they see abortion and gay marriage as family values.
I certainly don't!
Two men NOR two women can bring
forth new life. New life within
the family is the reason why for centuries, our government,
founded on Judeo-Christian values, has given the
family special prerogatives.
Take care and talk to you later!
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