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I come seeking knowledge. I, myself, grew
up in the Catholic Church, and I left when
I was about ten. Well, I'm twenty now and
I'm writing a paper about the Catholic Church
and some of their beliefs, particularly, praying
to saints.
Firstly, I would like to ask at what
point in history did the word saint mean
someone extra special, and not just anyone
who follows Christ?
Secondly, where in the Scriptures does
anyone of God pray to anyone but God?
Thirdly,
Why should I pray to someone who
isn't God?
Does He need help or something?
Fourthly, where in the Scriptures:
are we encouraged to pray to the
dead
are we encouraged ask the dead
to intervene on our behalf, and
does Scripture say that the dead
in Heaven can hear us anyway?
Lastly, as a personal question to whomever
may be answering this question: I was in
a bookstore recently and I saw a book with
a picture of Pope Benedict on the cover.
it was titled: Pope Benedict: The
Light of the World.
John 8:12 specifically says that Jesus
Christ is the Light of the World, not a
sinful man.
Does this come off as somewhat peculiar
to you?
Thank you for all of your help!
If you can't answer all of these, that's OK!;
the internet is a big place : )
God Bless!
Sincerely,
Alex
{
Can you help me with my paper on prayer to the saints and why is Benedict the Light of the World? }
Mary
Ann replied:
Dear Alex,
We don't do assignments for people,
but I want to give short answers
to a couple of your misconceptions. Pray means to ask or ask for something,
not to adore. As they used to say,
Who are you and what do you
do, pray tell?.
Catholics and Protestants ask people
to pray for them. Catholics ask people
close to God to pray for them, too.
We are not adoring them, we are talking
to them. In God, we are all united.
I don't wish to take away from Mary
Ann's answer, but if you want a good
source for your homework and some
pretty good answers . . . search our knowledge base. We have answered
all your questions at least once.
You may have been justified for leaving
the Church at age ten.
Nevertheless, consider coming home.
I apologize on behalf of the Church
for anything that was done to you
that shouldn't have been done. We
occasionally have members who behave
badly, but it is important to separate
bad behavior from the Teachings of
Jesus that can never change.
By definition: God can neither deceive,
nor be deceived. If the spirit leads
you, make an appointment with a priest,
tell him you are interested in coming
home and most importantly ask him
what ministries you can get involved
in at the parish level. It's a great
way to meet new friends who have
similar interests.
You said:
Fourthly, where in the Scriptures:
are we encouraged to pray to the dead
are we encouraged ask the dead to intervene on our behalf, and
does Scripture say that the dead in Heaven can hear us anyway?
We are not encouraged to pray for the dead; that would be necromancy and . . . the dead are not really dead but alive in Christ. Clergy will refer to the Faithful Departed, as the dead, in order to distinguish them from the living Catholic Christians they serve while on their Earthly pilgrimage.
This is a common misunderstanding when a conversation turns to the topic of Purgatory.
The Similar issues . . . below should help clarify any misperceptions on this specific topic.
To be fair, if you hand in your paper as
homework, we should be given as the source
of your answers :
)
Your first question may not be in
there. I'm not sure I know the exact
moment, but what happened is that saint in
Greek and Latin — the language
of the early Christians — also
means holy.
So to describe someone they venerated
as a model of faith, they called
them holy So-and-soorvenerable
So-and-soor blessed
So-and-so. This informal habit
eventually became more formalized
as those who were asleep in the Lord
were honored more in this way than
those living.
Eventually, it became a title, Holy
So-and-So much like we have the
Honorable John Doe for judges.
In our language, Holy was
translated Saint.
We Catholics do believe that all
believers in the grace of God are
saints. See the Catholic Catechism #
823.
823 "The Church . . . is held, as a matter of faith, to be unfailingly holy. This is because Christ, the Son of God, who with the Father and the Spirit is hailed as 'alone holy,' loved the Church as his Bride, giving himself up for her so as to sanctify her; he joined her to himself as his body and endowed her with the gift of the Holy Spirit for the glory of God." (Vatican II, Lumen Gentium 39; cf. Ephesians 5:25-26) The Church, then, is the holy People of God, (Vatican II, Lumen Gentium 12) and her members are called saints. (Acts 9:13; 1 Corinthians 6:1; 16:1)
This is what the Communion
of Saints is all about in the
Creed we all say together each week
— the mysterious link between
all believers.
As for question 5, Alex, let's get
real: Pope Benedict is the author. "The Light of the
World" is the title. There is
no colon between them. Look
at the cover.
Actually the title is Light
of the World: The Pope, the Church,
and the Signs of the Times.
You can tell because Amazon put this
at the top of the page, and because
if Benedict XVI is part
of the title, as you claim, then
no author is listed on the front
of the book. Since there has to be
an author listed, it only makes sense
that it is Benedict XVI, and that
the main title, which is in a larger
font and different color from Benedict
XVI, is Light of the
World.
May I also point out, my friend,
that Matthew 5:14 says that we, the
Church, are the light of the world.
This figures into the subtitle of
the book. The topic of the book,
then, is the Church led by Pope Benedict.
Make sense?
Eric
Alex
replied:
Wow.
I appreciate all the responses :)
They are very helpful and thorough.
I left the Church because I was told
I would burn in Hell
if I went to the Baptist church down
the street. Even as a ten year old,
I knew that wasn't right. The topic
of my paper is saints, in particular,
so if one of you knowledgeable folks
could give me a part in the Scriptures:
where we are encouraged to pray
to the dead, or
where someone prays to anyone
but God
I could finally finish this darn
college assignment!
Thanks ladies and gentlemen : )
God Bless!
Alex
Eric
replied:
Alex,
I can do that, but since this is
a research assignment, I'll ask you
to do some research and search our
knowledge base if you haven't already.
We answer this question a whole lot
and you'll find tons of information. I'll also
ask you to go to Catholic Answers and
find the tract that covers this topic.
There should be a quick search box
in the upper left hand corner of
the home page.
As for warning you against going
to the Baptist church down the street,
that's a bit like your parents warning
you not to talk to strangers.
Will you surely die as soon as
you set foot in there? No.
But there is a danger you could be
misled, and learn some things that
would draw you away from the Word
of Life, no matter how sincere the
Baptists seem.
You might argue: they teach from
the Bible, how wrong can that
be?
But for example, in 2 Peter 3:16 it says of studying Paul's letters,
16 His letters contain some
things that are hard to understand,
which ignorant and unstable people
distort, as they do the other
Scriptures, to their own destruction.
That is why we need to be guided
by the Catholic Church which Jesus
founded as the pillar and foundation
of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) and
which he promised to guide into all
truth:
(John 16:13).
Even 2 Timothy 3:14-15, which speaks
so highly of the Scriptures (as it
should), emphasizes that it is important
not only to know the Scriptures,
but to know those from whom you learned
it — because Scripture must
be rightly divided (2
Timothy 2:15 KJV).
Who did you learn the Scriptures
from?
How do you know they are rightly
dividing it?
Whose traditions are you following;
are they right and how do you
know?
15 Therefore, brethren, stand
fast, and hold the traditions
which ye have been taught, whether
by word, or our epistle.
But you have to have the correct
source, and the correct leaders rightly
dividing the Word of Truth and that
is the Catholic Church founded by
Christ.
Look at Protestantism. I'm not sure
how much you've surveyed it, but
there are tens of thousands of denominations,
all believing different things, many
of which are wildly different and
contradictory — many of which
impact our salvation ("to their
own destruction"). Some believe
once we "accept Jesus as Lord
and Savior" we can never lose
our salvation. (Many Baptists believe
this.) If you believe this, and aren't
careful with your conduct, and it
is wrong, you've lost your salvation.
Others believe you can lose your
salvation, but don't believe various
things, such as masturbation or contraception
or whatever, cause you to lose your
salvation. What if you follow what
they teach and do these things, they
are wrong on that?
Doctrine is life.
16 Watch your life and doctrine
closely. Persevere in them, because
if you do, you will save both
yourself and your hearers. (1
Timothy 4:16)
Without the right doctrine, your
salvation is imperiled.
Can you trust your salvation
to a denomination that was founded
in the 19th century, which disagrees
with many things that we have
historical evidence the early
Church believed and how they interpreted
Scripture?
Back to Protestants as a whole:
If they are so divided, then
how can you trust any one of them
has the right interpretation of
Scripture?
Clearly, just sitting down with Scripture
alone and interpreting it apart from
anything else is not sufficient,
otherwise all sincere, Spirit-filled
Protestants would agree on how to
interpret it.
I wandered away from the Catholic
Church myself into Evangelicalism,
and this was a problem
I never solved. Why can't Protestants
agree even on the basics if the Spirit
allows each person to correctly interpret
Scripture?
When I had a disagreement
with someone, that led me automatically
to question their sincerity and faith,
since I knew *I* was
sincere and devout and Spirit-filled,
so if we disagreed, *they* were
the one not led by the Spirit. This
disturbed me; it didn't seem right,
but the logic was perfect. (Of course,
we could *both* be
wrong, but then we'd be even farther
from the truth.)
So the point here is this: Doctrine
is life, and you must know where
you learn the Scriptures from, which
traditions you follow (either knowingly
or unknowingly — I guarantee
you follow tradition, whether you
think you do or not), and who rightly
divides the word of truth for you.
The faith was entrusted once
for all (Jude 3) to the Catholic
Church, so it is Her role to do these
things.
To visit (except perhaps on formal
occasions) another church, especially
habitually and without being grounded
in one's own faith, leaves one vulnerable
to believing doctrine which leads
to death. So while I wouldn't, in
so many words, tell a child that
they will go to Hell if
they visit a Baptist church, you
have to understand that the motivation
was to prevent you from endangering
your soul.