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Frankie
Mires
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Hi, guys —
I have been Catholic all of my life. Since
2000, I have been going through a lot in my
life.
My questions are:
- Is Adam and Eve just a story?
- RE: the End Times — will it end
like the Left Behind series?
- Where can I go for an answer to all of my questions?
I have plenty of them [questions] due to my cousins changing churches
and calling Catholics a cult.
Help!!
Frankie
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Is Adam and Eve a story, will the End Times be like "Left Behind", and how do I handle my family? }
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Paul
replied:
Frankie —
The Catholic Church is the Church
Jesus Christ founded, continues to
live through to this day, and is guided by His Spirit.
It is the one Church from which all
other Christian denominations have
broken with.
Adam and Eve is not just a
story. It is the story inspired
by God to communicate:
- what human beings are in comparison
to other creatures
- how they are made in God's image
- their special relationship with
God
- the complementary relationship
between man and woman and between
man and creation
- the paradise that the all-Good
God created for humanity
- the original sin of pride and
disobedience that occurred by
the wrong use of free will given
mankind at the beginning of that
man-God relationship, and
- the negative consequences this
has had on human nature that has been
passed on, and
- man's relationship with God.
Death entered humanity through sin;
and human nature has been weakened.
The world now is filled with good
and evil, not just good, as it was
in the beginning. Hence selfishness
and injustice permeate God's good
world. It also shows that God does
not abandon man even after sin, but
becomes man's helper and redeemer
— pointing to the Savior that
God was to send at the right time
in Jesus.
So the Adam and Eve story is very,
very rich with meaning, regardless
of whether it is read as literal
history or symbolic history.
A Catholic
may read it either way, because the
truth communicated in it and through
it, does not change at all. It is
certainly history, for it explains
many important mysteries of man and
God, even though it may be read literally
or non-literally. Non-literal history
takes profound truths and communicates
them in story-form that makes it
easy to understand.
Paul
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Eric
replied:
Frankie —
No, we do not believe the account
of Adam and Eve is a story.
We are really descended from two
parents who sinned, although their
names may not have literally been Adam and Eve,
since Adam simply means Man,
and Eve means Mother
of the living. We do believe
the account is rich in symbolic language.
For example, it's probably not likely
that there was a physical tree with
a physical fruit. (There certainly
wasn't an apple; the tree was not
an apple tree but the tree of knowledge
of good and evil.) Nevertheless,
there was a test where Adam reached
out to forbidden fruit and
attempted to make himself God. The
account is still true, it's just
couched in symbolic language. Just
as if I said It's raining cats
and dogs, when it's raining
really hard. What I've said
is true but not if you understand
it in a literalistic way, as if pets
are falling from the sky.
Here is some background on the issue
from what I think is the perspective
of those who are asking. Liberal
trends in Protestantism started in
the 19th century. They started to
doubt Scripture and the truth of
elements hard to reconcile with science.
They solved the problem by throwing
the baby out with the bath water, (i.e., they concluded that none of
this was really true, it was just a nice story.) In the
early part of the 20th century, a
reaction formed against them called
Fundamentalism. To solve this problem,
they also threw the baby out with
the bath water but in a different
way: They concluded that everything
(except John 6:53!) must be interpreted
literalistically. This became their
bulwark against error; their way
of guarding against the liberalizing
trends in Protestant biblical scholarship.
But it ignores the fact that Scripture
does use symbolism and that a literalistic
interpretation is not always the
right one.
Enter the Catholic Church. We have
a Magisterium (teaching office, the
Pope and the bishops in union with
him) to serve as our bulwark and
guide. This enables us to navigate
between the twin shoals of dismissing
the inerrancy of Scripture (which
we believe) and interpreting everything
in the same literalistic way. So
we interpret some things as symbolic
language, and some things literalistically,
according to our tradition and according
to the Holy Spirit guiding the Magisterium.
Your friends may get their nose out
of joint because we aren't insistent
that an earthly reptile talked like
Mr. Ed, but the fact is, we're in
good hands with the teaching office
of the Church to guide us.
You said:
- RE: the End Times — will
it end like the Left Behind series?
No, it won't happen as in the Left
Behind series. The short answer is
that their proof text for the Rapture, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, disproves
them.
- One, this is at the Second Coming
"For the Lord himself will
descend from Heaven with a cry
of command, with the archangel's
call."
- Second, it's at the Resurrection
"the dead in Christ will
rise first."
(1 Thessalonians 4:16)
This disproves that there will be
seven or 3½ years between the
Rapture and the Second Coming which
is the essence of the Left
Behind series. You can search our knowledge
base for rapture,
or read the book Will
Catholics be Left Behind? by
Carl Olsen. It was specifically written
to address your question on this
book. Another book is The
Rapture Trap by Paul Thigpen.
A good resource to start with is
Karl Keating's:
Anything Catholic Answers sells is
excellent. They have some free tracts
you might like to read on whatever
your friends may bring up. They also
have a radio program/pod cast you
can listen to, Catholic Answers Live on EWTN from 3:00-5:00pm Pacific
time. They answer questions live.
There is much, much more but that
should get you started. Also, come back here for specific recommendations.
Eric
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Frankie
replied:
Dearest Eric,
Thank you so much for answering my
questions.
- Would it be OK if we correspond
privately on other questions or
do I need to continue to go to
the web site?
I just want one person to answer
questions that have been coming to
my mind now for six years.
I stopped going to the Catholic Church,
but still believe.
I have had a lot of things in my
life just knocking me down, and have
allowed my feelings to play a big
role in the decisions I've been making.
Believe me I love being Catholic
and I do feel the power and love
in all that we do. It's just sometimes,
other people's religion seems more
appealing. They have better music
and their sermons were more powerful.
I am 48 years old and somewhat confused
these days.
Sometimes I just need another Catholic
to talk with about my concerns but
I cannot find one.
In His Care,
Thank-you, Thank-you, Thank-you!
Frankie
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Eric
replied:
Hi, Frankie —
Sorry for taking a while to get back
to you — it's been a bit busy.
Yes, I'd be delighted to answer other
questions as I am able, but I encourage
you to do a
Wide Reply or Reply
All so everyone can participate.
You have to avoid letting feelings
play a role in your decisions. When
the truth comes into play, as in
the spiritual life, truth should
govern what you do. Sometimes the
right thing will go against what
you feel. Feelings change from moment
to moment, but the truth stands forever.
I sympathize with your frustrations
— Catholic homilies are almost
always boring and banal and don't
nearly go into the depth of Scripture
that Protestant pastors go into,
but think of it this way:
- If something poisonous or unhealthy
is dressed up to look a lot better
than healthy food, would you still
prefer it?
- Even if 90% or 95% of it was
good, if even 1% was poison, wouldn't
it affect you negatively?
- How good someone's music is
- How powerful their preachers
are
- How wonderful their fellowship
is . . .
has nothing to do with whether they
teach the truth or not
There are many cults that have used
these things to seduce people to
believe them. Don't let these churches
seduce you away from the Catholic
Church.
Your complaint is basically,
I'm not being fed.
But it doesn't take a lot of effort
to feed yourself. The job of the
priest is not to spoon-feed you.
You're an adult — get off your
rear and learn to feed yourself!
There are:
- Study Bibles
- Commentaries
- Writings of the saints, and
- all sorts of Catholic resources
to help you.
It may take some digging but you
can find them. For example, one series, In Conversation with God by Francis Fernandez, is an excellent daily devotional. The Ignatius
Catholic Study Bible is a great
Study Bible for the New Testament.
The Scott
Hahn Bible Study tapes (with
some of the same material as the
Study Bible, except for the Old Testament)
on Saint Joseph Communications are
totally awesome. There are lots of
books at Ignatius Press and Catholic Answers that
can feed you.
There are a lot of free pod casts,
including better homilies, such as
the ones at Catholic Answer's, Word
on Fire, Franciscan
Friars of the Immaculate, and
many others. Also check out their iTunes. Here are some other suggestions:
I have a recommendation for you.
It's a CD entitled, I'm Not Being Fed by Jeff Cavins.
I also recommend perusing the other
audio CD's on that site for something
that catches your fancy. He also
has a book by the same title if you
prefer. If you want a little more,
there is a bundle with:
There, that should feed you for a
while. :-)
Eric
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Mike
replied:
Hi, Frankie —
Thanks for the question.
In addition to the fine replies my
colleagues have given, I'd like to
offer some pastoral advice.
You said:
I have plenty of them [questions] due to my cousins changing churches
and calling Catholics a cult.
Anyone who would call the Church
a cult, has not been properly taught
or catechized in what the Church
believes. It's important that you
tell them:
They are talking about
a church that doesn't exist; they
are attacking a straw horse.
In order to solidify and give a foundation
to what you say, it's important that
you study up on what the Church teaches.
Eric recommended some excellent
resources. In addition, I'd recommend:
The Catechism can appear to be pretty
big to some, but if you read a chapter
a day, over time, you will get through
it.
Whether one is dealing with family
members or cousins, at times family
cohesion can be a challenge. The
best advice I ever heard was from
my temporal mother, Dorothy Humphrey,
who passed away at 85 in January
of this year. She always told me:
Michael, Kill'em with kindness.
When I ask her to explain this, she
impressed upon me the importance
of being more mature and thick skinned
in certain situations than those
you are talking to. When someone
treats you in a harsh manner and,
in return you, Kill'em
with kindness, it will make
an impression, though you may not
see it.
If you are dialoguing on certain
teachings of the faith and are unsure
of something, don't be afraid to
humble yourself and say:
- I don't know the answer to that question; let
me get back to you.
If your in a tough family situation,
ask the Holy Family in prayer to
help you.
Just my personal advice.
Mike
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Frankie
replied:
Hi, Mike —
Thank you very much for your answers.
I appreciate everything you have
said.
I will study more and be better prepared
in the future.
Thank you,
Frankie
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