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Connor F. wrote:

Hi, guys —

"We do not permit anyone in any way to upset the defined faith or the creed drawn up by the holy fathers who assembled at Nicaea as the times demanded. We give neither ourselves nor them the license to alter any expression there or to change a single syllable, remembering the words: “Remove not the ancient landmarks which your fathers have set.

For it was not they that spoke, but the Spirit of God the Father, who proceeds from Him and who is not distinct from the Son in essence."

The Council Of Ephesus — 431 A.D.
Letter of Cyril to John of Antioch about peace

In the Council Of Ephesus, it said not to alter any expression. It mentions that the Spirit proceeds from the Father, but that it’s not distinct from the Son in essence, so it was saying not to alter the latest Creed. I recognize that they did add, “proceeds from the Father” at the council of Constantinople but this is the first time they’re mentioning not to change anything, obviously referring to the current Creed of the time, and doubling down on, “the Spirit proceeding from the Father” and not mentioning anything about it proceeding from the Son. So, it proceeds from the Father but is not distinct from the Son.

  • Does adding (“and the Son”) fall under expression altering: removing ancient landmarks (as adding to it can be considered ‘removing’), and
  • Why wouldn't they mention that the Spirit proceeds from the Son in this Council if it were meant to be so, especially considering that many times in this Council they were specific in mentioning that the Spirit is not separate from Jesus?

Thanks

Connor F.
  { Does adding ("and the Son") fall under expression altering: removing ancient landmarks? }

Magisterium A.I.replied:

Dear Connor,

The Council of Ephesus, held in A.D. 431, was a pivotal moment in the development of Christian doctrine, particularly concerning the nature of Christ and the Holy Spirit. While the primary focus of the council was to address the Christological controversies surrounding Nestorius and the nature of Christ, it also had implications for the understanding of the Holy Spirit, especially in relation to the expressions used in the Creed regarding the procession of the Holy Spirit.

Context of the Council

The Council of Ephesus was convened to address the teachings of Nestorius, who proposed a separation between the divine and human natures of Christ. The council affirmed the unity of Christ's two natures in one person, which was crucial for the understanding of the Incarnation. This theological clarity also set the stage for later discussions about the Holy Spirit and the Trinity, as the understanding of Christ's nature is intrinsically linked to the understanding of the Holy Spirit's role within the Godhead.

The Holy Spirit's Procession

The expressions used in the Creed regarding the Holy Spirit's procession were significant in the context of the ongoing theological debates of the time. The Nicene Creed, established at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 and expanded at the First Council of Constantinople in 381, stated that the Holy Spirit "proceeds from the Father." This formulation was foundational in the Eastern Church's understanding of the Trinity.

However, the Western Church later adopted the phrase "and the Son" (filioque), asserting that the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and the Son. This addition became a point of contention between the Eastern and Western branches of Christianity, leading to significant theological and ecclesiastical disputes. The Council of Ephesus did not directly address the filioque controversy, but the affirmations made regarding the nature of Christ and the Holy Spirit's role in the economy of salvation indirectly influenced later discussions on this topic.

Affirmation of the Holy Spirit's Divinity

The Council of Ephesus reinforced the understanding of the Holy Spirit as fully divine, equal to the Father and the Son. The council's declarations about Christ's nature and the unity of the Trinity laid the groundwork for a more profound exploration of the Holy Spirit's role in the life of the Church and the believer. The Holy Spirit was recognized as the "Lord and giver of life," a title that emphasizes His active role in creation and sanctification.

Conclusion

In summary, while the Council of Ephesus primarily focused on Christological issues, its outcomes significantly impacted the understanding of the Holy Spirit's procession and role within the Trinity. The affirmations made during the council contributed to the ongoing theological discourse regarding the relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, particularly in the context of the expressions used in the Creed. The debates surrounding the procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son would continue to shape Christian doctrine, culminating in the formal schism between the Eastern and Western Churches in 1054.

I hope this helps,

Magisterium AI

Eric replied:

Connor,

First of all, the Spirit *is* separate and distinct from Jesus as the Third Person of the Trinity, but of the same essence as the Son. Being "not distinct from the Son in essence" refers to the fact that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are of the same essence (consubstantial) with one another.

I suspect they did not say that the Spirit proceeds from the Son for two reasons:

  1. There is a Scripture that says that the Spirit "proceeds from the Father" (John 15:26) and they were being consistent with that, and
  2. The crisis that caused the Council of Toledo to add the Filioque ("... and the Son") had not yet occurred.

This crisis was a resurgence of the Arian crisis, and it was thought that adding the Filioque would shore up the belief in the divinity of Christ.

There is no contradiction between saying that the Spirit proceeds from the Father and saying that he proceeds from the Son; the first statement is merely one part of the picture, not the whole one. Elsewhere Jesus says,

"All that the Father has is mine." (John 16:15).

The idea that the Spirit somehow navigates around the Son to specifically exclude Him in His procession is a bit of a fanciful idea.

Eric
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