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J.J.
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Hi, guys —
I am an excommunicated man with a bad marriage,
(not fixable), who misses the fellowship of a Christian
community and would like to join another denomination.
- Does an excommunicated person incur the additional sin of
apostasy if he or she joins another church?
J.J.
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John replied:
Hi, J.J. —
Thank you for your question.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean by bad marriage,
(not fixable).
- If by that you mean you can't remain married to your current spouse because
your differences are irreconcilable, that doesn't mean you are excommunicated.
- If, on the other hand, you are telling us that you are in an canonically
irregular marriage
(which is not valid in the Churches eyes) that cannot be fixed for some
other reason, then you are simply forbidden from receiving the Sacraments,
except under extraordinary circumstance (i.e.: imminent danger of death).
While that is not an ideal situation,
it doesn't preclude you from fellowship in a parish community.
Were you to join a Protestant sect, you would not necessarily be committing
apostasy, but nevertheless it would be formal heresy. Apostasy is a term
reserved for those who have ceased to be Christians entirely.
In any event, I would not recommend compounding formal heresy to the sin
of adultery, which, sorry to say, is what an irregular marriage constitutes.
You gain nothing whatsoever by yoking yourself to a Christian community
that only preaches part of the truth.
I would recommend you continue to attend Mass and participate in parish
life as much as possible. True, you can't receive the Eucharist; but it's
not like you're going to find a valid Eucharist in any Protestant Fellowship.
At least, by continuing to attend Mass, you will have the opportunity to
participate in the True Eucharist (in a limited way) by being present
at the Holy Sacrifice made present and by adoring the Real Presence.
John
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J.J replied:
John,
Thank you for your prompt response.
I am eighty years old. My marriage is canonically irregular in
that we were married 22 years ago after divorces. Both former spouses were
living at the time (hence the excommunication); one (at least) has
been dead for years.
We have a wonderful, prayerful marriage that ceased being
clinically adulterous several
years ago, but both of us still have a bad taste in our mouths because of what
we perceive, under the circumstances, as the injustice of the original excommunication.
Since we are denied the Eucharist, we have tried our best to find spiritual
growth in homilies and sermons. We have scoured the city for something or someone
whom we could respect and from whom we could derive at least occasional inspiration. (The local University Newman Club came close, but the management (and
the context there) has changed.) We are, frankly, fed up with
constant hammerings about abortion, pedestrian-canned sermons and political
cheer leading from the pulpit.
We have found a preacher whom we respect and who respects us — unlike
our parish pastor — and will probably sign on and get the envelopes for the
weekly hit.
I am an ex-seminarian and a student of the Fathers and the encyclicals. I'm still hung up on Lamentabili Sane, [read it here] but that's another topic.
I'm grateful to you for your response.
J.J.
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Mary Ann replied:
Dear J.J.,
You were never excommunicated. You were just forbidden to receive Holy
Communion unless you lived celibately and confessed the adultery. Since
the sexual activity has ceased, you may certainly be readmitted to the
Eucharist, once you are reconciled again to the Church.
Someone appears
to have given you some incorrect advice.
I do sympathize with the state of Catholic sermonizing and Liturgy, though
I wish that I would hear more against abortion, which kills our young and
wounds our families so seriously. (I work in the field of post-abortion
ministry.) You are lucky in that regard!
Political cheer leading is not the Church's role, unless the State transgresses
onto grounds of basic human rights.
Finally, I encourage you to look into having your previous marriage examined
for validity.
You say that at least one partner
is dead. That is strange — surely you would know if the other were dead.
If not, it's certainly worth a quick search to find out, so that you are
free to have your marriage validated and can together fulfill your prayer
life as God intended, with full sacramental union with Him.
God bless.
Mary Ann
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John replied:
Dear Friend,
There is not much I can say about the bad taste in your mouth.
You may have based this on a perceived injustice.
If either of your previous marriages were sacramentally valid then the
Church cannot grant an annulment.
Notwithstanding your feelings, your situation, as you describe it, changes
your status. If you and your wife are living together as brother
and sisters in the physical sense, you probably are free to receive
the Eucharist.
If both of the previous spouses are deceased, then you are completely
free to remarry or get your marriage blessed.
I'm not sure where you live or what your current Catholic pastor's issues
are. It sounds a bit odd that he doesn't respect you; as you
say. Certainly, Catholics (let alone priests) are called to respect the
human dignity of every person, irrespective of their sin. However, respect
for the person can never include condoning any sin.
- Nevertheless, if you have irreconcilable differences or personality conflicts
with this priest, why don't you try to find another local parish?
Especially
since the situation you described, may no longer require you to abstain
from the Sacraments. I would recommend you find another priest who doesn't know you. Explain
all the details to him. He'll know what to do.
As I said, if both spouses are dead, you can just fix the
current marriage. If, on the other hand, you are willing to promise to
continue a celibate and chaste relationship, they may give you a dispensation,
given your age and other circumstances.
John
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J.J replied:
Thank you both.
You've been a real help and I appreciate it.
J.J.
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