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WouldThisBeValid wrote:

Hi, guys —

I have a question but first let me explain the situation.

I'm engaged. Both of us are baptized Catholics who have received our First Communion and Confirmation and a Catholic wedding is important to us. Here's the problem:

We want to get married outside the Church; to be exact, in a state theatre downtown. Per Canon law, I know this is almost impossible.

I explained the situation to a friend of mine and she said she had a priest for me. I found this hard to believe so I took the information she gave me and looked him up. He was at a nearby parish but, after a while, was moved. I found out later he was moved  because he was accused of embezzlement. Shocked at this, he went to court and was found not guilty by a jury. The diocese was not thrilled about this and told him (for lack of a better word) not to practice. He tried writing a few times to reconcile but was told reconciliation was out of question. Now he has his own congregation.

  • If he does our ceremony would it be legitimate?
  • Would it be valid but illicit?
  • From the Vatican's view, would it be wrong but still valid?

Please help.

WouldThisBeValid

  { Can we celebrate a valid marriage outside the Church with a priest who was told not to practice? }

Paul replied:

Dear WouldThisBeValid,

We would need more information, but if this priest has been told by his bishop to not practice his priestly duties, either temporarily or permanently, you should not seek him to celebrate your wedding. Whether it is licit should be your immediate concern, not if it is valid.

For more exact information on this, you should contact your local diocesan chancery office for details.

Paul

Mary Ann replied:

WouldThisBeValid —

The priest does not marry you; he is the official Catholic witness. You would need a dispensation to marry elsewhere, and an official Catholic witness. This priest is operating in schism so could not be an official witness for the Church.

If you marry outside of the Church, your marriage is invalid. You could marry in a sacramental ceremony in the Church, and then have a civil ceremony in a theatre, I suppose:

  • but why?

A wedding is not a show, but a liturgical celebration of a union that is the symbol of the relationship of God with His people.

Mary Ann

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