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Anonymous wrote:

Hi, guys —

I have brothers who left the Catholic Church many years ago for a fundamentalist church.

Now they are questioning my sister and I about our faith. They seem to think they are condemned by the Catholic Church to Hell. I know they rely on Doug Hunt as one of their sources.

  • How can I answer their questions?

I thought I had read that anathemas were only declared on people inside the Church to counter heresies and that the Church no longer uses the term.

Thank you for any assistance.

God Bless you,

Anonymous

  { If my brothers left the Church, are they going to Hell and does the Church still use anathemas? }

John replied:

Hi Anonymous,

Beyond your question is the matter of what an anathema means in relationship to the Church.

It is not a condemnation to Hell. The Church doesn't does not do that — it leaves that to God.

An anathema is the highest form of a formal excommunication.

It is done for the benefit of the sinner that he or she might repent. We see an example of this in the Scriptures, when St. Paul instructs a church to hand someone over to Satan so that he might suffer in the body and eventually be restored. (1 Corinthians 5:5)

Your understanding of the anathemas issued at Trent is correct. Since everyone in Protestant sects at that time were Catholics (at the time of Trent), they were formally excommunicated for heresy.

Today the Church doesn't excommunicate those born into Protestantism because these people aren't Catholic to begin with.

That said, in the case of your brothers, since they left Church, they have incurred automatic excommunications. Again this is not to say the Church has condemned them to Hell. This is to say that they are no longer in full communion with Holy Mother Church.

The matter of their salvation is dependent on several factors. I would refer you to the Catechism for a further clarification.

John

Mike replied:

Hi Anonymous,

  • Did you mean Doug Hunt or Dave Hunt?

Dave Hunt is an anti-Catholic and has no credibility at all. Tell your brother he can't use a source that purposely smears another faith as a source.

In addition to John's fine answer, I wanted to comment on the salvation issues he mentioned at the end of his answer. The Catechism does a very good job here. I have bolded what I believe are the important parts.

Outside the Church there is no salvation

  • 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?

Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church.
He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.

847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:

Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.

848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."

(Vatican II, Ad Gentes 7; cf. Hebrews 11:6; 1 Corinthians 9:16)

Note that the second paragraph in CCC 847 states may not will achieve eternal salvation.

  • Why?

Because your brother has to persevere in seeking the fullness of the Christian Faith that can only be found in the Catholic Church. If he knows the Catholic Church is the true Church yet refuses to enter, his salvation is in grave jeopardy, but remember, we don't damn people rather they, by their actions or inactions, damn themselves.

It's their particular judgment or one-on-one with Our Lord, not ours.

Since neither you nor I can make his faith decisions, the best we can do is pray for him and be a good Catholic Christian witness. Don't get pulled into debates for the sake of debates.

Only faith-share in charity if you can end things charitably: agreeing to agree and agreeing to disagree.

If your brother is sincere he will read Karl Keating's book: Catholicism and Fundamentalism as well as the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

You said:

  • How can I answer their questions.

By reading more of the Catechism and books on apologetics. Looking at my previous religious upbringing, I am shocked and surprised that we were never taught anything about either:

This should be standard in all religious CCD classes in Catholic America today. If DRE's are not well familiar in both these areas, the local bishop should send them to diocesan classes in order to be [trained/taught] in these critical areas of the Catholic faith.

  • How can any CCD curriculum omit the willingness of the very first Catholic Christians, who lived from 100 A.D. to 800 A.D., to die for their faith rather than deny Christ and His Church?

In your situation, Jurgens and Keating are a good starting point.

Hope this helps,

Mike

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