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Thomas
Green
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Hi, guys —
I am Catholic and an active member in my parish
as a Youth Minister. I read on Sundays and
also serve as a Eucharistic Minister and
Usher. I am 32 years old and have spent about
$500.00 on psychics in my life with nothing
to show but feel good stories.
Against my family's wishes, I plan to see her, the psychic,
on Tuesday for $130.00.
I have been hiding this and keeping it a secret
but am now obsessed.
I want some good news, or insight, because
my life is going nowhere.
Thomas
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Can you provide some insight on my obsession with going to a psychic because my life is aimless? }
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Paul
replied:
Dear Thomas,
You are seriously violating the First
Commandment by going to so-called
psychics, as you would going to:
- palm readers
- tarot card readers, and
- spiritualists
or mediums using
ouija boards,
- etc.
We are forbidden to attend or participate
in any occult activities such as
this because it displays a lack of
faith and trust in God and it can
also open ourselves up to evil influences
of the spirit world.
My advice: If I were you, I would
take this to Confession (even if
you were not aware of its evil) and
resolve never to dabble into occult
practices again.
Peace,
Paul
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Thomas
replied:
Paul,
Thank you for responding.
- Is there something wrong with
hiding this from my family?
- What's wrong in seeing a psychic?
Part of me wants to believe in the
psychic; another part of me feels
like it's wrong. I want some guidance.
- How do I get this if my life
is going nowhere?
I am scared of making wrong decisions.
I guess I want to hear some good
advice or guidance from people who
can assist me.
Thomas
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Paul
replied:
Thomas,
The Church has traditionally had
something called spiritual
directors. These can be anyone
trained in giving spiritual advice
and counseling from a Catholic perspective,
but usually it is a priest or religious.
I suggest you call, either your pastor
or the diocese, to ask about this.
Maybe they will be able to direct
you to someone.
Again, when seeing a psychic, you
break the First Commandment by not
trusting in the providence of God.
Psychics are people that are either
fakes or occult practitioners that
are open to evil spirits. At best,
you are wasting your money on them,
and at worst, you are opening yourself
up to evil spirits.
Paul
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Thomas
replied:
Hi, Paul —
You are right. At times, I feel like
I am a fake or in hiding, wearing
a mask. I am crying out for help.
I want some help or guidance but
it would be strange if I went to
the priest at my local parish to
talk to him about this.
Thank-you for your help on this issue.
Thomas
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Mike
replied:
Hi, Thomas —
Thanks for the question.
I just want to add a bit to the fine
answer my colleague Paul has given.
Yes, definitely bring
this to Confession but also make the sacramental life a habit.
Most Catholic bishops in America
recommend Confession for the family
on a monthly basis.
Individually, depending on one's
struggles with temptation, going
to Confession once every two weeks or
weekly may be best. Find a spiritual
director who is faithful to the Church.
Don't worry about what the priest
thinks. He is there, in the person
of Jesus to help you be a better person.
You're putting:
- your life
- your family
- your future and
- your salvation
in the hands of a bunch of people
who guess! . . . and guess what?
If they
guess wrong, they guess again, and
again, and again, until they have
satisfied your desire to think they
know what's in your future.
If you stop going to them, they will
give you false reasons to return.
It appears on Sundays you put your
faith in the Church; while from Monday
through Saturday you put your faith
in your psychics.
This is playing with dynamite.
Please don't consider that the tone of
either, my reply, Paul's reply, or
your families reaction is harsh. We just want what is best for you.
- What is living a sacramental life?
It includes:
- going to Confession on a regular
basis
- going to Mass and receiving
Holy Communion on Sundays, and
during the week, if possible,
in a state of grace (no mortal
sin), and
- developing a regular prayer
life; my preference is praying
the Rosary but reading portions
of the Scripture on a daily basis
is great as well.
Hope this helps,
Mike
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Connor Raevhen commented:
Hi, guys —
Greetings to all,
This is the first time I have come across this website and for the most part I have found the information contained on it informative, however, I have questions about your reply to this individual about dabbling in practices that you have labelled occult.
- May I ask, why these practices are considered to be occult in nature and banned?
Paul said:
- palm readers
- tarot card readers, and
- spiritualists
or mediums using
ouija boards
- etc.
We are forbidden to attend or participate
in any occult activities such as
this because it displays a lack of
faith and trust in God and it can
also open ourselves up to evil influences
of the spirit world.
It is only the last of the list (spiritualists
or mediums using
ouija boards) that will leave a person open to outside influences. I do understand the First Commandment reads:
I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
I believe it is important to be able to differentiate between that which is deemed to be occult and that which is deemed to have been a practice which predates all modern religions. I don't think things should be as cut and dry as they are made to be. It's one of the major foibles of any religion. All denominations have, in some part, taken their rites and their beliefs from other denominations. The belief system is simply altered slightly and made to be law for those that have created it.
I do understand as well that the following has been stated:
9 When you come into the land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominations of those nations. 10 There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire [an ancient occult practice], or one who practices witchcraft, 11 or a soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. 12 For all who do these things are an abomination [detestable] to the LORD . . .
Deuteronomy 18:9-12 |
This is black and white; quite blunt, and to the point, but sometimes you need to understand why people seek an alternate answer as opposed to stating that they have done a bad thing and should confess their sin without trying to get to the crux of the issue.
Thanks for your time and I hope I haven't insulted you in any way.
Regards,
Connor Raevhen
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Eric replied:
Connor —
The verse from Scripture you quote refers to soothsayers. According to Wikipedia, a soothsayer is one who practices divination, including a fortune-teller.
Palm readers and tarot card readers are both forms of fortune telling according to Wikipedia. Obviously any attempt to divine the future is a form of fortune-telling and linked with the occult. Wikipedia specifically calls out divination as a form of occultism.
Eric
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Connor replied:
Hi, Eric —
Thank you for your swift response.
- When you label certain actions as occult in nature, which definition are you alluding to?
The natural Latin meaning of the word occultus which is translated to (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to knowledge of the hidden.
- Or are you referring to the occult as the dark arts of satanism?
There must be a definitive line between the two.
Divination is an attempt to read the future, determine the will of God, or give practitioners a feeling of being able to control fate. Probably every religion ever practiced has used some form of divination.
The Hebrew Bible absolutely condemns it but priests nonetheless threw some sort of ritualistic dice called the Urim and Thummim. Romans sometimes went to war on the basis of what priests saw when they killed an animal and looked at its entrails. Different objects were thrown, rolled, dropped, tossed, or heated to get results.
Even today people read cards, tea leaves, or messages in newspaper astrology columns, convinced they can discover the future. Psychic telephone lines do a big business.
There are those who demonstrate with great effectiveness that they are able to locate water with a divining rod. Others claim they can locate lost people after holding a piece of clothing.
Police forces occasionally employ such people, though usually very quietly.
Objections to divination range from simple scoffers to those who believe practitioners are in league with the devil. Christian religions especially have a history of punishing anyone who practiced the art. If divination fails, the practitioners are ridiculed as fakes. If it is successful, they are accused of dealing with Satanic forces.
Whatever the techniques employed, divination is an ancient religious practice, probably dating to the very first person who prayed to a God and then asked for a sign as proof that the prayer was heard.
- I understand that some are loathe to even discuss the notion of it, but seriously, when there is a person that comes to you with the hope of hearing something, anything, do you think that debasing other forms of worship is the best approach?
Following onto my question of why they are deemed to be of an (occult|satanic) nature which was my understanding of the response, the following comment was made in this article:
Mary Ann said:
Wiccanism is paganism; it is a phony modern form, but it is real
in its opening to evil spirits. This can bring harm to anyone in
contact with it.
Paganism actually predated both Christianity and Catholicism. Many of the beliefs that are held in the two mainstream religions can be traced back to the original roots of Paganism and Wicca, although the term wiccan is a more modern notion than that of the past.
Hope this helps,
Connor
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Mary Ann replied:
Connor —
Scripture forbids both divination and spiritualism. Tarot cards and palm reading are forms of divination, which presume to tell the future of one's life through a secret knowledge.
Our lives are not matters of fate to be discerned through divination. Divination is a practice which attempts to discern the will of the gods or the fates through any of a number of practices.
Divination leaves one open to manipulation by evil spirits but any such superstition is a sin because it is a sin against the first commandment and it is a failure to trust God.
There is one God, and we live under His Providence. Trying to manipulate reality through the use of occult symbols, words, and practices is magic.
Mary Ann
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