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Shawn
Hughes
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Hi, guys —
- In the same sense that an unmarried person
should not act upon their sexual desires, is it wrong for Catholics to say that there
is nothing wrong with homosexuality as
long as they do not act upon their desires?
Thanks!
Shawn
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Is there a parallel between how sinful homosexual and heterosexual sins are, when acted on? }
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John
replied:
Shawn,
It's not about what Catholics
say about a moral teaching.
It is what the Church officially
teaches that matters. When the Church
officially teaches something in the
area of faith and morals, it is always
right and is infallible. The Holy
Spirit protects the Church from teaching
error.
Now to the specific issue:
The Church
doesn't teach that homosexuality
is OK as long as you don't act on
it. It teaches that it is a serious
disorder, however, if you don't act
on it, you are not guilty of sin.
Homosexual desires are not natural
desires. They differ from natural
heterosexual desires. Heterosexuals
are also called to live celibately
and not act on their desires outside
marriage.
Both heterosexuals and homosexuals
are called to resist lustful thoughts
and actions but a heterosexual desire
is normal and natural, where as same-sex attraction is disordered.
It doesn't make the person who suffers
from same-sex attraction evil but
it is a condition which is contrary
to the natural law.
That is why the Church can never
support so-called same-sex
marriages.
John
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Shawn
replied:
Hi, John —
- But isn't God all-knowing?
- Doesn't He know: who we are,
what we are, and when we are created, as in what our sexuality
is: gender or transgender?
- I do not support gay marriage, but
I also do not judge how one lives;
it is their free will, is it not?
I look at it as a disorder just like
other types of disorders some are
born with:
- mental retardation
- bipolar disorders
- limbless, etc;
It is out of one's control, how one
is born. I guess I just look at God
knowing what He created.
Please help clarify this issue for me.
Thanks again, you all are great!
Shawn
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John
replied:
Shawn,
Let me see if I can clarify this
for you.
We have several issues.
The first of which is whether or
not same-sex attraction is
a disorder that is innate or learned.
The jury is still out on that. The
fact is, we are all sinners and are
all prone to do what ever feels good.
It's called concupiscence; so we
are all potential liars, potential
thieves, potential fornicators, and
I'd say most human beings are capable
of homosexual acts (given the
right circumstances) and many
straight men and woman have homo-erotic
thoughts.
These temptations are not sinful until
we act on them. Take stealing. Stealing
is not sinful until we actually steal
something, although entertaining
thoughts of stealing over a period
of time,
can be sinful because we are opening
ourselves up to wanting to
act on that temptation
to
steal something.
That's my point. In your original
question, you said it's all
right to be homosexual as long
as you don't act on it. Well no,
it's not all
right. To
say it's all
right is
to the say the disorder is good.
Whereas, we know that death, sickness,
and disorders entered the world as
a result of original sin. To say
it's all
right is the
same as saying God intended the person
to be a homosexual — or in
other cases, it's like saying God
intended a person to have cancer.
God doesn't do that to His children.
Homosexuality is a lie of satan,
just as cancer is one of satan's ideas,
so it's not all
right to
say it's all
right.
God does know ahead of time what
will happen. That's because He invented
time itself but that doesn't mean
He makes people have
same-sex attraction.
What I think you meant to say is:
- Being homosexual, in and of itself,
is not sin, or
- You are not guilty
of sin simply because you are
attracted to the same sex.
That is different than saying it's
all right.
- Do you see the distinction?
John
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Shawn
replied:
Hi John,
Yes, I see the distinction, but you
said:
God does know ahead of time what
will happen. That's because He invented
time itself but that doesn't mean
He makes people have
same-sex attraction.
Shawn
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Paul
replied:
Shawn,
Two points:
- To the
degree we are free is the degree
to which we are guilty for
the evil we choose.
Only God knows how truly free
we are, as we act.
- God knowing the outcomes of
things doesn't necessary mean
God predetermines these outcomes.
We must leave some room in the
puzzle for the gift of free will
that God gives humans.
Paul
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