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I found your site by "googling" Roy Schoeman as my entry.
My husband and I had the privilege yesterday of hearing Roy speak at the Magnificat Women's breakfast at the RIT Inn in Rochester, New York.
Roy signed his book: Salvation is From the Jews. The book was bought in September of 2004, after I had
seen him interviewed on EWTN.
Since 1958, I have had an interest in the art of astrology, having been introduced
to it by an immigrant European woman. Natalie Nuth had been a highly educated woman
before the Second World War who was separated from her husband and two children.
They were eventually reunited and brought to the United States by a Lutheran Aid
society. Natalie told me that most Europeans put stock in the art of character interpretation
carried down through the centuries in astrological lore.
As a faithful, practicing
Catholic, I made many inquiries regarding the subject as I began
my studies. However, I have always remained an amateur. Through
the years, I have read many studies done by astronomers and
other scientists about the dating of events in the life of
Jesus. My main interest has been in the many natal horoscopes
done regarding His birth, hence my interest in Schoeman's idea
about 4 B.C. being His natal date. Many works indicate that the
Chaldean Magi were influenced by the prophecies of Zarathustra,
regarding a Prince to be born when certain constellations showed
the time and the seasons were ripe. From all these books in
my little collection, I have put together my own interpretation
of an ideal time for Christ to be born.
In his book, The Dead Sea Scrolls, scholar Geza Vermes gives his interpretation of 4QMess ar, which has been called a Messianic Horoscope. Among his
translations of that text is the prophecy that the Messiah would have red hair and
a birthmark on his thigh, etc. Alleged witness reports to Rome say Jesus had chestnut
hair. When I was at Qumran in 1989, the guide showed me a wheel, depicting the signs
of the zodiac; it is now in the Rockefeller Museum in Jerusalem. Many mosaic floors
of old synagogues in Israel show the horoscopic wheel as well. At Capernaum, I saw a carving
of the sea-goat, symbol of Capricorn.
Two years ago, I read the very interesting book by Harvard
historian T. Dooley. The book received such a favorable review
in America that I ordered it from the library and
was sent the Williams college copy. Morandi's Last Prophecy is
a work based on the research of Dooley in Italy, regarding a
notorious monk, apparently not a good astrologer, from the
time of Pope Urban III. Urban eventually published a bull against
the study of astrology — although he had been an advocate — before Morandi wrote a letter predicting his imminent death.
Galileo had been one of the many, including the clergy, who had
used the library that Morandi had amassed. Dooley suggests
that this may have played a large part in Urban's displeasure
about the work of Galileo.
Apparently a priest, also an astrologer,
visited Morandi before the letter was circulated and told him
that his calculations were wrong, and that he expected Urban
to live on for 13 more years; which he did. Morandi conveniently
died in prison after his arrest. It apparently was God's will
that astrology be removed from universities; Colbert saw to
that in Louis IV's reign. However, it might be the time and
the season to reexamine it — as the New Agers consider it their
study along with the Gnostic heresies. A Jesuit at St. Peter's
College taught the subject for many years. I have his essay
on the subject.
Astrology is not only a psychological study, but it involves math also.
Alas, I am incompetent in such studies such as math and astronomy,
and what I suggest in my horoscope for Jesus is a compilation
of the work of others and their math using the coordinates
for Bethlehem.
Hopefully you will find my studies somewhat interesting.
Respectfully,
Barbara B. Foley
{ Based on my studies and what I have read, is it time for the Church to re-examine Astrology? }
Mike replied:
Hi Barbara,
I didn't see a question in your e-mail.
Your e-mail falls into one of the categories of questions that we don't answer.
While our main focus at AskACatholic.com/CPATS.ORG is on clarifying teachings and correcting misperceptions about the Catholic faith, let me comment on what I think you wanted to ask.
I tend to disagree with your statement/opinion. I was very concerned about the content of the e-mail you sent me.
Divination and magic
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2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to unveil the future. (cf. Deuteronomy 18:10; Jeremiah 29:8) Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone.
Astrology is part of the New Age cult. Fr. Mitch Pacwa did a 13 part series on the New Age Movement called, "Who do you say I am?". In it, he stated that all the phony horoscopes are off by one month astronomically!
This is one thing astrologers won't tell you. We would recommend
Fr. Mitch's book: "Catholics and the New Age" and Ralph Rath's Enneagram.
For short the Church teaches:
Astrology: stay away from it.
Astrology is the study of the positions and aspects of celestial bodies in
the belief that they have an influence on the course of natural
earthly occurrences, and human affairs.
Astronomy: is fine!
Astronomy is the scientific study of matter in outer space, especially the
positions, dimensions, distribution, motion, composition, energy,
and evolution of celestial bodies and phenomena.
You said: It apparently was God's will
that astrology be removed from universities; Colbert saw to
that in Louis IV's reign. However, it might be the time and
the season to reexamine it — as the New Agers consider it their
study along with the Gnostic heresies. A Jesuit at St. Peter's
College taught the subject for many years.
There is no need to reexamine interests and practices that the Church has determined are forms of divination that are to be rejected. Again, check out CCC 2116. The Catechism was published in 1994. To hear that a Jesuit has been teaching this for many
years, is a scandal to the Catholic Faith Jesus founded on Peter.
For short: He's teaching heresy!
You said: Two years ago, I read the very interesting book by Harvard
historian T. Dooley. The book received such a favorable review
in "America" that I ordered it from the library and
was sent the Williams college copy.
The Church would not approve of the magazine "America" as it is a very heterodox, unorthodox
magazine. I would not put it on the recommended
list of magazines to read on a regular basis. There are many articles
which directly undermine the Church's Authority.
You said: Galileo had been one of the many, including the clergy, who had
used the library that Morandi had amassed. Dooley suggests
that this may have played a large part in Urban's displeasure
about the work of Galileo.
This is incorrect. Read this posting to get the scoop on Galileo:
I questioned a lot
of your e-mail, though I'm sure you have a good heart.
My advice: Live a sacramental
life by going to Sunday and, if possible, daily Mass in a state of
grace, and get to Confession at least once
a month.
Take care,
Mike
Mary
Ann replied:
Barbara,
I agree with Mike completely. I would add that St. Paul
says in Colossians that
23 God's secret is Christ
Himself; in Him lie hidden all God's treasures of wisdom
and knowledge. 4 I tell you this to save you from being
talked into error by specious arguments.
Read the
rest of Colossians, chapter 2. There are many other
times that St. Paul speaks against those who would lead
us into the confusing path of false knowledge, via charts
and genealogies and divinations and levels of knowledge
and special diets, and all manner of things that were
current then and are current again now.
Swear off astrology
now. Renounce it in the name of Christ, even if you don't
feel that you want to do so. Just ask God's help and
say the words. Someone in Magnificat should be able to
direct you to someone orthodox, preferably a priest,
who has a deliverance ministry.
As for all the pseudo-historical information, bear in
mind that the Israelites sinned by using divination and
by worshipping false gods, so it is not surprising to find
evidence of pagan beliefs in the Holy Land.
God bless you.
Mary Ann
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