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Anna Anonymous wrote:

Hello to you all!

First let me say, I am a Protestant but my denomination is very close to the traditions and values of the Catholic Church. I am a member of the Disciples of Christ Church and we are centered around communion and community, much like your Church. My family is Catholic, and my mother left the Church in the mid-70's — This would be pre-Vatican II, right? but, other than my mom, pretty much everyone is Catholic. I am not anti-Catholic in anyway . . . I am not against it and I think it is beautiful but it's just not for me.

Now, here is where you guys come in. I need advice . . . Well, my boyfriend and I need some advice and feedback. I pray that you guys are an appropriate group to ask!

My boyfriend is devoutly Catholic. It is beautiful. He tries his best not to miss Mass, prays the Rosary often, and reads Scott Hahn as much as he drinks water. Both of our deep faiths and desire for Christ have led us into a high spiritual, Christ-centered relationship where we learn so much from each other. Lately, we have been talking about marriage and he is going through a discernment process trying to decide if he is ready, and if it is what God wants. Our main concern is the fact that he is Catholic and I am not. Personally, we don't see it as a big deal. We both enjoy going to church with each other (I work as a Youth Minister) and we are both pretty big on the fact that we are both Christian.

The tension comes from our parents. As I said earlier, my mother left the Catholic Church when she was 17 years old. She went to Catholic school her whole life and grew up in a Catholic home. She felt the needed to leave the Church after a series of events. The result was excommunication from parts of her family.

Her father did not talk to her for a while and her own grandparents did not even come to her wedding. I remember as a kid, my grandfather walking out of the house Christmas Eve because my mom did not want to go to a Catholic Mass. It was a pretty hot topic when I was a child.
Now, my mom keeps saying to me that I don't need to go to a Catholic church and that they are crazy. Pretty much everything along a Catholic bashing crap line. On the other hand, I don't listen to her. I know her experience was one persons experience, and I do enjoy going to Mass with my boyfriend. Since I have told her this she really does not bash the faith in front of me anymore.

Now, my boyfriend's parents:

They were originally a Catholic-Protestant couple. My boyfriend's mother was Catholic and his father was a Methodist. When they were married, the father's family were in an uproar over the fact he was marrying a Catholic, and she was stealing him away etc., etc. He eventually became a member of the Catholic Church, and according to family legend, it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

There is a permanent riff between them that, in my opinion, his mother plays victim a lot.
I say this because I cannot imagine someone hating Catholics and intentionally trying to convert someone from their beliefs. She has recently told my boyfriend that:

"I hope you realize that if your father had never converted, family life would not be as hard as it has been." or something like that.

I have repeatedly invited her to my church, after having attended with her several times. She just ignores me. She has had a tough time with her faith. Coming from a large family, she is the only sibling still in the Catholic Church and, for that reason, she's made fun of it a lot. I think she sees Protestants as the enemy. This hurts my feelings incredibly. I try, so hard, to ignore the differences, but to no avail. She is very hypocritical in saying that Protestants are always bashing Catholics and asks why won't they come to her church. She won't acknowledge she does the same thing. I have talked to my boyfriend about this and he tells me that she is hypocritical and he has learned to ignore what she says. He does not share her opinions.

Anyway, my big question for you is:

  • Can a Catholic and Protestant be happily married?

My boyfriend and I have discussed meeting with Catholic and Protestant couples to talk — sort of like Pre-Cana meetings.

We do realize the importance of our faiths, and have discussed raising our children in both churches, respecting and honoring each church.

  • How would a wedding work?

Since I work at a church, it is obvious a perfect venue for the occasion. We have agreed on that. We would want clergy from both churches there.

  • Do joint ceremonies exist?
  • Are Priests/Deacons OK with this?
  • Is this allowed, or would the marriage not be seen as legit in the eyes of the Catholic Church?
  • Finally, how can I relate to his mother more?

I know this is an awkward and very tiring question, and I appreciate you reading my insanely long e-mail. I sincerely hope to hear back from you and I respect and appreciate making yourself available to people like me.

God Bless,

Anna

  { Can we be happily married, do joint ceremonies exist, and how can I relate to his mother? }

Eric replied:

Dear Anna,

Thanks for writing.

We are happy to see God working in your relationship with your boyfriend. Marriage indeed is a big step and it is good that he is taking the time to discern it. Both of you need to spend time in prayer about the matter.

The quick answer to your question is that yes, it is possible to have happy marriage between a Protestant and a Catholic, but it will be more difficult, perhaps significantly more difficult, to achieve it than if the parties are of the same faith. After all, if you are supposed to be giving yourselves totally to each other in marriage but don't share the most intimate part of your life, that tends to be a source of contention in the marriage, especially with children. Even something so simple as going to church each Sunday.

  • Do you attend two church services? or
  • Do you go to your church and he and the children go to his? or
  • Do you just go to Mass with him and not receive Communion at all?

You mentioned raising the children in both faiths, but in order to get married in the Church, your boyfriend will be required to promise to raise the children Catholic insofar as it is within his power. Raising them in both traditions, even if that were possible, is not an option for the faithful Catholic. (I expect it would be more confusing to children anyway — and they can only have one baptism!) With the rest of the family Catholic, you are going to feel left out.

  • What kind of family prayer time are you going to have?
  • Should it be:
    • the Rosary
    • some other Catholic devotion compatible with your sensibilities, or
    • something generic either you invent or get from elsewhere?
  • How about contraception — I presume your boyfriend is firmly opposed to it.
  • Are you OK with that?
  • Will his opposition cause any friction in your marriage?
  • Are you willing to participate in Natural Family Planning (NFP), a natural form of spacing births which requires a fair amount of involvement on the woman's part?

Continue to think about ways in which your faith will play a role in your marriage and how differences might affect things. It can be pretty subtle.

To answer your question about the wedding, you will need two dispensations from the bishop:

  1. One for your boyfriend to marry a non-Catholic, and
  2. one to allow marriage in a non-Catholic church building.

Both dispensations are routinely granted. I don't believe joint services are permitted but your pastor can officiate. You would be better off talking to a priest for the details.

As for your boyfriend's mother, I'll offer two suggestions.

  1. One, love her as best as you can (this includes forbearing her offenses).
  2. Two, ask her about her faith. Let her talk about what her faith means to her; make connections with her.

Maybe take the Scott Hahn stuff you picked up from your boyfriend and discuss that with her.
This will disarm her and allow her to connect with you and see you're not so bad. Make sure you do more listening than talking. You want to show her you relate to what she feels and believes, but the goal is to allow her to share her faith while contradicting the idea that you're going to bash her. Keep in mind, by the way, that there are in fact many Protestants who viciously bash the Catholic Church like you wouldn't believe, so she is not imagining things or making things up.

You may not understand why someone would do this, but they do.

Hope this helps!

Eric Ewanco

John replied:

Dear Anna,

I would just like to add to what Eric has said, and simply ask:

  • Have you studied anything about Catholicism?

You say that your denomination is close to Catholicism in it's approach to worship. You mentioned communion and so forth. I'm not sure you realize just what Catholics believe about the Eucharist. We believe it's the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity sacramentally present in what appears to be bread and or wine. In other words, the elements (bread and wine) don't just symbolize Christ, they become Christ.

I'm not sure what your denomination teaches in reference to communion, but even if it holds a similar view, the denomination doesn't have a valid priesthood or Apostolic Succession; both of which are necessary for the Eucharist to actually be the Eucharist. The Eucharist is only found in the Catholic Church and other Churches such as Eastern Orthodox Churches that retained a valid priesthood and Apostolic Succession.

If you believe communion should be central to your worship, you shouldn't be settling for anything but the Real Thing, hence, I lovingly encourage you, to study these things for yourself. We will be happy to answer any questions you may have.

Jesus Christ did not found a bunch of denominations, he founded one Church on the Apostles with Peter as the visible head of the Church. Their ministry was handed down to successors: bishops and Popes. Every Pope can trace his line back to St. Peter. Every Bishop also has spiritual genealogy back to one of the original Apostles.

It is the same Roman Catholic Church, which today, offers you fellowship and the Real Body and Blood of Our Lord. It is the same Church Christ founded.

  • It is the same Church which gave you the canon of Scripture: the list of books in the Bible.
  • It is the same Church that defined the Holy Trinity.
    (You will find it mentioned as Trinity and find a definition of it in the Bible.)
  • It is the same Church which dogmatically pronounced that Jesus Christ is One Divine Person with both a human nature and a divine nature.

So many non-Catholics, don't understand what we believe. They even twist and misrepresent what we believe. As you seek to become a bride, I would invite you to learn about the Catholic Church, who is the Bride Christ.

That said, consider buying a cheap copy Catechism of the Catholic Church to learn everything we believe as Catholics.

Under His Mercy,

John DiMascio

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