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Mark Menne
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Good Evening,
Thank you for giving me the ability to ask religious questions.
I am
a 43-year-old male who grew up Catholic. I went to Catholic
school grades 1—8 and was an alter boy. My wife and I were married
in the Church where our four children were baptized.
I converted
to Mormonism four years ago and my wife, who died last year, was
adamant that I was a member of a cult. She was very opposed
to my children going with me to church.
- Now that she is gone,
do you have any thoughts on whether or not I should bring my children with
me to church?
Thank You,
Mark
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Should a Mormon consider her departed wife's wishes and not bring the kids to the Mormon church? }
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John replied:
Mark,
Thank you for your question.
Your wife was unfortunately correct. Mormonism
is indeed a cult.
Not in the sense that we speak of cults today, (i.e.: a bunch of secluded
people under a cult like figure practicing all kinds of strange things),
but theologically speaking, Mormonism is a cult
or, better put, an institutionalized
heresy.
Mormonism is not Christian, although it espouses Christian values. Mormons
don't hold to the most basic and essential teachings of who Jesus Christ
is, or the Trinity. Therefore, they cannot be called Christians.
This is not an indictment of their character or values. They share our
Christian values and,
in some ways, they will often live these values better
than Christians, however, none of that can justify the heresy taught by their church.
Salvation
comes through Jesus Christ, the God/Man, one in being (of
one substance) with and eternal begotten of the Father. Christ, the Second Person of the
Trinity, is not a created being.
He is Eternal God, the Word made flesh. Jesus Christ is one Divine Person
with two natures. Divinity and humanity hypostatically fused.
Rejecting who Jesus Christ is — is to reject Jesus Christ. While our
Protestant brothers have also fallen into heresy, they've retained
orthodox doctrines with respect to the Trinity and Jesus Christ, hence, they
share in the one Baptism, which allows them to properly be called Christians.
Mormons reject the Trinity, and the Jesus who came to reveal the Father,
for another Jesus:
a Jesus not found in the Scriptures or history — a Jesus that
does not exist. Therefore this Jesus of Mormonism is not the Christ; hence
Mormons cannot be called Christians.
Not only, should you not bring your children with you, but also, I beg
you to study the Scriptures and the Teachings of the One, Holy, Catholic,
and Apostolic Church. See just what you traded in for the wild and apostate
musings of Joseph Smith.
Under the Mercy and in the Love of the One Jesus Christ, Eternally begotten
Son of the Father, True God and True Man,
John DiMascio
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Mary Ann replied:
Mark,
There are several issues here.
- First, how old are your children?
If they are over the age of reason, their consciences should be respected,
especially if they have received the Sacraments of Initiation. (Baptism,
Eucharist, and Confirmation)
Second, rare is the case that a person your age was catechized at all well
in the Catholic Faith. You should ask yourself if you honestly knew the
Faith you had left, and why you changed. If your change was truly one
of conscience, it should always be open to reflection. You might read the Catholic Catechism to see the faith from which you have apostatized.
Third, as to the Mormon religion: You will find that what you learn about the religion changes as you advance
in it, and that the internal and external controls get stronger. When a
child is told:
"If you leave Mormonism, you will never see your parents
again, even in eternity,"
that is a strong inner control. When a
bereaved person is told:
"Baptize your deceased wife in Mormonism
and you are assured of being together with her again."
that is a strong
control. Both the higher knowledge and the controls (from financial
to spiritual) are signs of cult-ish behavior.
There are many theological problems with Mormonism, inconsistencies and
things that don't make sense.
Its books contradict each other and they contradict known history.
Here is a testimony by a family who journeyed out of Mormonism:
It also contains descriptions of Mormon beliefs that will surprise you.
Mormons are not Christians, as Catholicism and Christian history has always
defined Christianity.
In Mormonism, Jesus is not the only-begotten eternal
Son of the Father, who with the Spirit is the One God over all creation.
Jesus has a brother, Lucifer or Satan, and one day you too can be a god,
like Jesus. The Mormons say, take a spirit wife and beget children
in your own world. Mormonism is sort of a materialist version of ancient
gnostic dualism and neo-platonism seen through a Masonic lens.
Joseph Smith was a convicted con artist and a sex addict by contemporary
terms. There is much more to say
about Mormonism, but I think that your entry into the religion was probably
motivated not by doctrine, but by community and support and assurance.
I would just like to ask you to give your wife's dying wishes the respect
that would involve
re-thinking those first steps, looking at them clearly,
and looking again at her faith and the faith of your children. Then, follow
your conscience.
God bless you.
— Mary Ann
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Bob replied:
Dear friend,
Thank you for your question.
I am glad that you are taking the time to
consider your children's future life in faith. Perhaps with God's grace
you can make the right decisions, after weighing some very weighty matters.
First . . .
- Why did you leave the Catholic Church to begin with?
I am very sorry that
you apparently did not get good instruction in your faith and were sold
on a religion that is full of errors. While there is much to commend in
the faithfulness and moral uprightness of many Mormons, Mormonism's beliefs
are not consistent with Catholicism, or any other Christian denomination,
and they contradict historic Christianity. You owe it to you wife's devotion
to her children and her faith to reconsider this great rift you have created
in the family by abandoning your Catholic faith.
- Would you please consider
investigating the Catholic claims to authenticity more closely for your
own good and so that you can give your children the faith inheritance that
they deserve?
There are many good resources that would help you to fairly evaluate both
faiths so that you can make some informed judgments. If you are open to
that I will recommend some. Mormon evangelists have made it a common practice
to debunk Catholicism to uninformed Catholics, thereby instilling confusion,
and then filling the void with the fullness of their community, which often
seems to be more vibrant and caring than the Catholic's own parish. If this happened to you, I can understand how you
got swept away but I hope you will give us another chance to show you
why you ought to come back.
In the meantime, I would talk to a priest and consider bringing the children
to a Catholic Church so that they can attend Mass and begin to have an
experience of their faith heritage.
Ultimately, however, their life in faith will be shaped by you. You must
decide where you will worship, and if you don't give the Catholic Church
an opportunity to speak to some of the issues that separate us from Mormonism,
you are doing a great disservice to yourself and your children. Please
weigh this carefully.
Your coming to our site shows a willingness to do
what is right. If your conscience has led you here, let it lead you home
to the truth.
Peace,
Bob Kirby
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