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Paul Keese wrote:

Hello Helpful People:

  • What is meant by our Nicene Creed when we say . . . one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church?

My friend says that since the word catholic is not capitalized, it means that we believe in all Churches, Protestant and Catholic.

I can't bring myself to believe this since the Nicene Creed was written and agreed upon in the year 325 A.D. There were no Protestants at that time. Surely, we don't believe in the Protestant church doctrines and teachings.

  • So, just what do we believe when we say,

    We believe in One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church?

I will be teaching this subject, Our Creed, to the RCIA class in March.

Thanks,

Paul Keese

  { Since the word 'catholic' is not capitalized, does this mean we believe in all Christian churches? }

John replied:

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your excellent question and thank you for your service to the Church as an RCIA instructor.

Let's start with the definition of the word Catholic. It is simply an English derivative of the Greek word Katolikos which means universal.

One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic are the four marks of the Church. By that we mean there is one universal Church which can trace it's roots back to the Apostles.

The official name of the Church is The Church of Jesus Christ. We believe that this Church fully subsists in the Roman Catholic Church (including all the Liturgical Rites in union with the Pope. That includes Melkite Catholics, Ukrainian Catholics, etc.).

That said, there is only one Baptism but we understand that the Church of Jesus Christ can subsist, in part, in other Christian Communities, if they use the appropriate form (words) and matter (water) for Baptism.

The Orthodox Churches also claim the four marks. In fact, they believe we are the ones in schism from them. Despite the schism in 1054 A.D., the Church of Jesus Christ most definitely subsists, in large part, with in the Orthodox Churches. They have the same legitimate Apostolic Succession and all the sacraments found in the Catholic Church. The doctrinal differences are not in substance but rather differences of expression. I might add that we accept their expressions of doctrine as valid. The Eastern expression of doctrine is just as Catholic as the Western expression. In fact, our Eastern Rite Catholics hold to them. The only real division between the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Churches is a disagreement over the jurisdiction of the Pope.

Our relationship with our Protestant brothers is a little different. They broke Apostolic Succession and denied most of the sacraments, yet, in an imperfect manner, they too are part of the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. The Church of Jesus Christ partially subsists within the Protestant communities.

That doesn't mean we accept all their doctrines; nor does it mean that being a Protestant is the same as being Catholic. It just means we recognize that they are still part of our Church in an imperfect way. It means we have an obligation to reach out to them in Christian charity to lead them home.

I hope that helps. I'd also recommend you read the entire section on Church unity in the Catechism of the Catholic Church before you teach on this subject. 

You can read it on-line here:

Catechism of the Catholic Church [or buy a cheap copy today!]

John

Mike replied:

Hi, Paul —

I would also recommend that you read this web posting as well. I quote St. Pacian of Barcelona in the fourth century. Just ignore the ads in the middle of the quote.

Hope this helps,

Mike

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