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Jeremy Thomas wrote:

Hello,

I have schizophrenia and don't believe in any religion. I think my breakdown started when I began reading the Bible and started judging my person and sins as if they were one and the same.

Don't Catholics teach:

Judge the sin, not the sinner?

I got really down on myself and out of control due to this. It made me unbalanced emotionally and I couldn't evaluate anything reasonably.

There is a Catholic counselor who attended my resource center. He judged me in front of the class and said in a nasty tone: He is naughty, I can tell by his art. I don't know if he failed to apply the Judge the sin, not the sinner criteria.

  • Being so down on myself is not Catholic . . . is it?

There maybe a time for conversion in a healthy, balanced way but Catholics teach we are created in God's image. We are good by nature. Thomas Aquinas even said unbelievers could become saints and St. Paul says in the Scriptures: It's not me but the sin in me (Romans 7:13-20), implying he didn't fully and deliberately sin without confusion or weakness.

  • How much more do I have to suffer from my condition?

I'm not saying that I don't commit any sin; I have habits, weakness, fears, etc. I'm not even certain God exists. I think the view that says we are totally corrupted is false. Even me, a sinner and pagan am not entirely corrupt. If I was bad, it would not mean my nature, itself, was bad. Being bad would be no cause for destructive negativity, but I'm not bad, I'm mad.

So I'm asking you to confirm to me that good Catholics don't judge the person but the sin or they don't judge the person with schizophrenia even though he may have objective sin.

  • Am I correct to say it's unbalanced of me to judge my person as if it was identical to the sin?

I thought the sinner repented of his sins and condition, not of his person.

Thank you,

Jeremy

  { Should I be down on myself and am correct in saying I shouldn't judge myself as I do my sins? }

Mike replied:

Hi, Jeremy —

Thanks for the question.

Let me first preface my reply with what is stated on the Ask Us page:

We wish to make clear, the apologists at AskACatholic.com are NOT licensed counselors. We can give advice, general guidelines and opinions, but the very best direction a person can take is to bring their concern to a local parish priest that is faithful to the Holy Father and the Teachings of the Church. He will have the ability to apply the total situation, the facts, realities, nuances, to Church Teaching and Canon Law.

That said, I am sorry to hear about your scandalous encounter with this Catholic counselor. I would strive to find another one. A good Catholic counselor should not only have the appropriate medical background but be compassionate and understanding.

In situations like you have described, we would remind people to separate Judas behavior from the Teachings of Jesus passed on down through the ages by His Church.

Before I address your other questions, let me just say many Catholics in our Church don't even know some of the basis catechetical teachings we believe and that you already know.

I admire you for seeking to find out what we believe.

You said:

  • Don't Catholics teach: Judge the sin, not the sinner?

Yes, we do. The Church teaches that we should hate the sin and strive to avoid it, but love the sinner.

There is minor sin and (major/serious) sin. For a sin to be serious it must include all three conditions:

  1. It must be a grave matter, like sexual sin.
  2. We need sufficient time to reflect upon the sin we are about to commit and then must make the decision to sin anyway.
  3. We must give full consent of the will to commit the sin.

If all three are there, the person has committed mortal or serious sin but as you are alluding to: no one can know the conscience of anyone and the circumstances under which the sin was committed.

So you are correct! We can't judge the sinner but from a Catholic view, the person with a conscience that is able to reason, has to be open to knowing the truth and discerning sins from those actions or behaviors that are not sins.

Even Jesus said in the Scriptures:

6 Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

Matthew 7:6

So we have to make judgments as to what are dogs and what is swine.

What we can't do is impute a personal judgment on a person for an apparent sinful action. None of us know what went on behind the reasoning for why that person sinned.

There is only one Person who makes these Judgments and that is the Lord Jesus at our Particular Judgment when we pass on from this life to the next one.

Our calling is to discern that purpose and act upon it. It appears you already know a bit about what Catholic Christians believe. I would encourage you to study, pray and consider talking to a Catholic priest about your situation. There may be a program he can direct you to.

You said:

  • Being so down on myself is not Catholic . . . is it?

No, not at all! As you stated, we are all made in the image and likeness of Our Lord and we have a specific vocation or purpose in life. Once again, our job is, through prayer and the sacraments, to discern what that vocation is. Our Lord wants us to have nothing but a happy, fulfilling life.

That said, there are some, like you, who have medical issues which can make this difficult. This is why I stated up front that we are not licensed counselors or priests. Don't be shy or afraid to seek help if you need it. If you get a bad apple, whether it is a counselor or priest, forget him and search for another one who is compassionate and faithful to the Church.

You said:

  • How much more do I have to suffer from my condition?

Again, we are not licensed counselors or priests so we can't make any medical assessments. At least make an appointment with a local priest to discuss this issue. When making the appointment, if it makes you feel better, make sure you tell the secretary that you don't belong to any faith and are currently not interested in one but still are interested in getting counsel and advice from a priest or pastor.

In the meantime, though you may not understand reasoning behind it, try to offer your suffering up to God for His glory.

You said:

  • Am I correct to say it's unbalanced of me to judge my person as if it was identical to the sin?

Yes!! We always have to separate the sin from the sinner.

Our human nature makes it so we will always struggle with certain sins and habits, but, as you rightfully pointed out, we are intrinsically good, very good in God's eyes. Even when we struggle, the Lord still loves us because He understands our struggles more than we understand them.

There is no need to repent of your condition. God's ways are a mystery to all of us. What I do know, is there is some greater future good that the Lord has in store for you if you follow His Ways.

God loves you Jeremy! More than you can imagine! Even when we struggle with sin, He still loves us so lighten up on yourself.

You said:
I have schizophrenia and no religion.

  • Can you read and comprehend reading material?

If you can, consider buying a cheap copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Hope this helps,

Mike

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