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Befuddled wrote:

Hello and Peace,

My question is on the topic of neuroethics and free will. As Catholics, we believe that free will is a metaphysical ability to make choices and discern between what is good and what is evil.

At the same time, psychology proposes the concepts of nature and nurture as determining our behavior.

Our genetics determine our inherent characteristics, while those around us, further influence and shape who we are as people. I know that the Bible tells us to never lead others especially children astray.

My question has to do with the idea of neuroethics — that our actions are decided entirely by our physical brains and that all possible thoughts, and therefore actions are, in a way, predetermined. That our nature is ingrained in us and we are nurtured by coming into contact with the nature of others.

The idea of determinism has been around for as long as the debate on free will has existed but neuroethics is a more recent development that seems to scientifically support the claim that we aren't responsible for our actions. Chaos doesn't break out because society and expectations: the ingrained nature of a social species does not allow for it. There are expectations and set ethics. Neuroethics seeks to determine how the brain allows for this.

I am a devout Catholic who is trying to fully understand this but I am having difficulty.

  • How do we, as Catholics, answer the deterministic ideas of neuroethics opposing free will?

Please look into this and answer back. I am confused and frightened by such a proposition:

  • Do I really choose to be Catholic?

Thanks,

Befuddled

  { How do we, as Catholics, answer the deterministic ideas of neuroethics opposing free will? }

Rob Coutinho replied:

Hi Befuddled,

The idea that your thoughts (and actions) are set by nature and nurture, based on scientific analysis, is simply untrue. There are so many neurological connections in the brain that it is not possible to predict the outcome of a given stimulus based on the neurotic pathways.

For the laymen: The brain is too complicated for instinct to overcome. A dog will always run down into a basement to get a meaty bone. As a puppy, you can throw the bone down there and lock the dog in the basement for the night. Eight years later the dog may hesitate, but he will still in the end, go for that bone. Instinct overcomes the dog's hesitation. For humans, this is not the case.

If you want to look at a possible scientific explanation, you could consider chaos theory.

In mathematics, chaos theory describes the behavior of certain dynamical systems — that is, systems whose state evolves with time — that may exhibit dynamics that are highly sensitive to initial conditions (popularly referred to as the butterfly effect). As a result of this sensitivity, which manifests itself as an exponential growth of perturbations in the initial conditions, the behavior of chaotic systems appear to be random.

Small changes in the neural pathways make a huge difference in the outcomes. Therefore, it is not possible to predict the outcomes of certain stimuli. In same manner is not possible to predict the weather two years in advance. This is often called the butterfly effect. A butterfly flying in a different direction in China can make us have rain two years later instead of sunshine. See the book (and movie) Jurassic Park for more explanations about chaos theory.

Human beings can overcome their nature . . . if they choose to do so. It would be natural for us to defecate in our pants and never brush our teeth. Being human means overcoming that which might be natural for us.

Having said all that, there is a significant point to make about behavior. Brain abnormalities can cause people to think and act in decidedly un-Christian ways. One of the reasons that Christ cautioned us about judging others is because we don't know what others are actually facing.

It may be that a crazed, serial killer who shows an act of kindness to one of his victims has actually done something profoundly more difficult for him than it would be for another to give all he had to the poor and work at a homeless shelter all his days. We simply don't know so, although we all have free will, (there is no scientific basis for suggesting otherwise), our actions, thoughts, etc. are influenced by our genetic makeup and our upbringing.

Jesus came to forgive sinners, not justify the self-righteous. He did not usually offer pardons to those who did not ask, (the Crucifixion being an exception).

So don't be blaming your genes or your upbringing for your faults. That would be tantamount to blaming God. You are called on to do what you can with what you have been given. See the Parable of the ten talents, five talents, and one talent of gold. (Matthew 25:14-30)

God knows what we are facing and will certainly take that into account.

Robert Coutinho

Befuddled replied:

Thank you Rob,

I appreciate your response to my question.

If you don't mind, I would like to inquire further. There are, from what I have heard, many trillions of synaptic connections within the human brain (or at least, a very large number). That seems to imply that our possible thoughts are set. We, as humans, see ourselves as conscious, rational beings, with innate curiosity about the world and an ability to perceive time.

  • What would you say separates us from the beasts, other than a large brain which seems to have led to our advanced society and concepts of morality?

An atheistic classmate of mine says that we are animals but we have simply evolved very, very complex brains and thus we perceive what we call concepts of consciousness, morality, and time.
I think he is jumping to conclusions and putting too much arrogant faith in science, yet his thoughts make me wonder.

  • What, in your opinion, separates us from beasts?

I don't want to jump to accepting it on faith because I am an inquisitive person.

  • Some things must be accepted on faith but, again, what would you say?

Free will says that we could have chosen differently, but the concept of no free will often appears tempting in today's society.

Your last answer was good, please write back.

Thanks,

Befuddled

Rob Coutinho replied:

Dear Befuddled,

You said:

  • What, in your opinion, separates us from beasts?

The theological answer is:

We have a soul and we are made in God's image.

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in:

tells us:

2. Science and Technology
At the Service of the Human Person

God created man in his own image and likeness: "male and female he created them" (Genesis 1: 27), entrusting to them the task of "having dominion over the earth" (Genesis 1:28). Basic scientific research and applied research constitute a significant expression of this dominion of man over creation. Science and technology are valuable resources for man when placed at his service and when they promote his integral development for the benefit of all; but they cannot of themselves show the meaning of existence and of human progress. Being ordered to man, who initiates and develops them, they draw from the person and his moral values the indication of their purpose and the awareness of their limits.

It would on the one hand be illusory to claim that scientific research and its applications are morally neutral; on the other hand one cannot derive criteria for guidance from mere technical efficiency, from research's possible usefulness to some at the expense of others, or, worse still, from prevailing ideologies. Thus science and technology require, for their own intrinsic meaning, an unconditional respect for the fundamental criteria of the moral law: that is to say, they must be at the service of the human person, of his inalienable rights and his true and integral good according to the design and will of God.(7) The rapid development of technological discoveries gives greater urgency to this need to respect the criteria just mentioned: science without conscience can only lead to man's ruin. "Our era needs such wisdom more than bygone ages if the discoveries made by man are to be further humanized. For the future of the world stands in peril unless wiser people are forthcoming".(8)

Numbers in () represent footnotes. View them on either the Vatican or EWTN page at above.

You said:
An atheistic classmate of mine says that we are animals but we have simply evolved very, very complex brains and thus we perceive what we call concepts of consciousness, morality, and time. I think he is jumping to conclusions and putting too much arrogant faith in science, yet his thoughts make me wonder.

In reference to the arrogant faith in science, since I am a scientist, I have to take offense at the accusation. Science is nothing if not supremely humble. No scientist ever claims to have found truth — only facts. Scientists collect data and see what happens when you tweak the conditions.

As a consequence, there is no scientific evidence for or against God's existence (or the existence of a soul in humans) that anyone would rationally stake his reputation on. Proofs, if one can even use the term when dealing with science, of a negative occurrence are virtually impossible
as some evidence may turn up at a later time. There is no proof that bigfoot does not exist —
of course there are no bones or body parts existing to the creature that have ever been found either.

Now, in the case of something like bigfoot, we would expect to find some sort of evidence as there are people claiming to have seen the living creature.

  • If such a species exists then why don't we find dead carcasses, bones, etc?

Well, the jury will always be out on that unless and until it is proven to exist — somebody brings a legitimate pelt or carcass in for biologists to examine — thus: science will not ever say something does not exist unless it is intrinsically impossible.

Intrinsic impossibility consists of a paradox. The nature of the universe is such that a paradox can not exist. Thus something cannot be all blue and all red at the same time since the definition of all blue excludes the possibility of any red, or other color, never mind it being all red. Something cannot both exist as completely Uranium 238 and at the same time exist as completely iron. This is where scientists begin to question the Holy Eucharist. Please read this web posting for an explanation of why the Holy Eucharist will, in all scientific terms, appear to be bread but is, in fact, the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. If I remember correctly, I actually contributed to that discussion.

In reference to the soul, the same document:

goes on to tell us:

I. Respect for Human Embryos

Certainly no experimental datum can be in itself sufficient to bring us to the recognition of a spiritual soul; nevertheless, the conclusions of science regarding the human embryo provide a valuable indication for discerning by the use of reason a personal presence at the moment of this first appearance of a human life:

  • How could a human individual not be a human person?

Now, from a scientific point of view, there are virtually uncountable quantities of synapses in the brain. These are not the controller of man, they are its slave. Our bodies are not our controllers, they are:

  • for us
  • for our use, and
  • controllable by us.

As I said earlier, we are not a slave to instinct. Every other animal on this planet is. We can overcome our instincts — and we can choose to overcome them without external stimuli.
(e.g. without somebody telling us to get our act together.)

  • It is rare for an affirmed atheist to accept the idea that God can exist if there is no scientific evidence for Him, however, how could there possibly even be any scientific evidence?

That would, in some respects, be rather unreasonable. God is not contained within this universe. He created it, so he is certainly external to it as well as within it.

  • How could a line understand anything of a plane on which it is contained?
  • How can a two-dimensional object have any real knowledge of a three-dimensional item?

There might be shadows or echoes but on the whole, scientific evidence from those points of view would never prove nor disprove the existence of their greater shapes. God is beyond, above, more complete, more complicated, et. al. than our universe. We could only find echoes or hints of His existence.

  • Are there echoes or hints?

I would argue that there are loads of them. (Jesus being a good example).

  • What about scientific echoes?

Well, I notice that the universe appears to follow mathematics rather nicely (on the whole). If the universe were a randomly created and controlled place, I would expect chaos, but I find order. That is a semi-reasonable argument that something intelligently created the place. It is by no means definitive, but then as I pointed out before, you cannot find such definitive evidence anyway.

Our brains are far too complicated for anyone or anything to be able to predict what we would do given a given stimulus.

  • If you are hungry and there is food placed before you, will you eat it?

Maybe, then again, if it belongs to someone else you may not (even if you have no fear of retribution). Your soul will tell you that taking the food is wrong if it belongs to someone else.

  • Why?

If we are here only for our own enjoyment and existence then everything that would support that existence would seem correct to us.

  • Why have diverse cultures come up with many of the same basic laws?
  • Don't steal.
  • Don't murder.
  • Don't commit adultery.
  • Honor your parents.

— these are shown out in every culture. There are exceptions to the rules only in the act being defined differently, not in the act of being okay.

  • The Aztecs went on a killing rampage whenever Venus was in a certain point in the sky. They ate some of their captives (to gain an enemy's strength), yet murder was still an illegal act in their culture!
  • The Eskimos needed divergent gene pools and so it was common for a man to offer his wife to a visitor. Nevertheless, taking your host's wife without his permission was considered abominable.

Our souls make us different from the other animals. We have God's law written on our hearts.
We can choose to disobey that law, but we still have it. You rarely, if ever, hear someone suggesting that goodness has no real meaning. When someone kills another, he will usually
come up with some excuse as to why he should be excused from doing so (assuming he considers himself innocent).

  • When do you hear such an individual suggesting,

    To hell with your standard?

These laws are not just herd instinct or the survival of the majority or the best. Often the correct moral judgment involves that which would potentially harm society, the herd, or the most fit. (e.g. Upholding the right of an owner to keep his land even though he chooses to not use the land for planting or other endeavor).

Science simply collects data, collates it, and sometimes, comes up with scientific laws that demonstrate or explain the phenomena we happen to see.

  • Why do (most) scientists believe that life evolved over hundreds of millions of years?

Because that is what the vast majority of data suggest to us.

  • Why do we believe that the Earth revolves about the sun? — (actually the center of mass of the two bodies — which is located within the sun itself, very near the center.)

Because that is what the measurements and mathematical formulas tell us.

If somebody shows a Heavenly (meaning space) body that behaves differently than the 1/R2 universe, we will begin to search for a reason for the anomaly. So far, all Heavenly bodies behave the same way and according to the same physical laws put forth.

Nobody is going to find evidence that something does not exist. They may find no evidence for its existence, but a negative proof is intrinsically impossible (other than when a paradox would have to exist, as mentioned above).

Your friend does not have proof that humans do not have free will. I can, however, show you that a dog will follow instinct unless specifically trained to do something else (and then it is following its instinct still as I would use another of its instincts to overcome the one in question). To claim that we will only follow what we are programmed to follow . . . in the same way a fish's movement in water throughout its lifetime is pre-programmed and determinable, is both ludicrous and decidedly unscientific.

I suppose I could probably go on with this discussion for several volumes. In the end, if your friend persists in the belief that Science has anything to say about truth, I would suggest ceasing to throw your pearls to swine. (Matthew 7:6)

I hope this helps,

Robert P. Coutinho
B. S. in Chemistry from Framingham State College
Disabled due to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome/Myalgic Encephalitis

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